Voter ID is racist??

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jun 14, 2013.

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  1. birddog

    birddog New Member

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    If a person is not industrious and smart enough to get a valid ID, they don't deserve to vote!
     
  2. dujac

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    why don't you trust in the constitution?
     
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    show me the source that says 90% of voter fraud is done by the left
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    People OUGHT to be worried about the likely significant number of votes being seriously screwed-up or lost, due to THE VOTING SYSTEMS THEMSELVES.

    The racists who WANT voter ID methods implemented which WILL DISENFRANCHISE minorities and the poor... are running a giant SCAM on THE PEOPLE. The provable incidents of people voting by impersonating another person... is so LOW that it is insignificant.

    Please... let's focus on these voting MACHINES and local tabulation methods before it causes our Democracy to become super-tainted.
     
  6. birddog

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    So predictable a response! I have read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and my opinion remains. I believe in the Constitution, and I believe in an honest interpretation.
     
  7. dujac

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    your interpretation is dishonest

    it says the right of citizens of the united states to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the united states or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude
     
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    Simple miscounts and tampering with votes in bulk - chicanery with absentee ballots, hacking into computerized tabulation etc. - are the vulnerabilities for elections.

    Pretending that some conspiracy of coordinated criminals of sufficient numbers to alter an election's outcome via concentrated bogus votes is viable is monumentally silly - just as fanciful as the solution of flashing a fake ID at a poll nanny to solve the non-existent problem.
     
  9. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Having an ID does not prevent ANYONE from voting.
     
  10. undertheice

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    the sheep of the left will never stop and listen to reason. they will insist there is nothing wrong unless it has to do with one of their hot button items. they will scream that corruption isn't happening in the ballot box until their man is narrowly beaten by an opponent, then they'll claim it's only the other guy that pulls these dirty tricks and demand recount after recount. we all know how corrupt our political system can be on both sides, but our liberal brethren will always deny any wrong doing by their heroes. they will claim any attempt to clean up corruption that doesn't start with their idols is some conspiracy, parroting a series of anecdotes, half truths and talking points to prove how corrupt the other side's intentions are. reason, logic and common sense are simply beyond them. they operate on the emotional appeal of populist rhetoric and and mob mentality.
     
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    sorry guy, about 99.9% of minorities are born in hospitals and are given birth certificates, it's been this way for the last forty years. Viviette Applewhite is from a bygone time. You have no argument.
     
  12. dujac

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    viviette applewhite is alive and well
     
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    Ya, and she also has a photo ID now, so keep on loosing this argument.
     
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    Those who want to suppress votes via having to flash a fake ID at a poll nanny should, at the very least, show evidence that the possibility of a conspiracy of illegitimate voters conspiring in sufficient numbers to alter the outcome of an election even though that has never happened.

    Additional bureaucratic demands being imposed upon an American citizen by the State demands that it address a real problem, not a convenient, self-serving fantasy.
     
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    Oh this is rich, a statist claiming bureaucratic demands are a bad thing now.
     
  16. dujac

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    the point is that it took her years and a lawyer to get one

    that's exactly what the 15th amendment was written for

    your argument is what's loose
     
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    Your name-calling nonsense aside, whenever a bureaucratic imposition does not address an actual problem, it is a bad thing.

    At a minimum, such measures must be remedial.


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    Very true, but we have the right to make sure they are American citizens.
     
  19. Mayor Snorkum

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    So you're claiming King Obama's ID is fake.

    That's rich!

    No it doesn't. It requires being born in the US.

    Yes. Your "logic" is completely circular. You're pretending the ONLY means to get ID is via birth certificate, and the only means to get a copy of your birth certificate is with ID. Which is complete baloney. Anyone that's had their wallet stolen can get their driver's license replaced with other forms of ID that the DMV finds acceptable. The Mayor used the ID card provided by his employer at the DMV to get his replaced.

    No. We want to deny every illegal alien the vote, since illegal aliens are criminals for voting DemocRAT.....er for being in the US illegally.

    The imaginary old lady you're making up? There are ways to resolve that issue. How has the old bag been buying her booze, without ID? If the crone is 80, that means she was born in 1933. Which means she could have gotten her driver's license by 1949. You want to pretend she didn't spend some part of her life without a driver's license? That she didn't have a job? That she didn't spawn, wasn't married, didn't have a residence, didn't pay taxes, and ISN"T ON SOCIALIST SECURITY RIGHT NOW?

    Since the broad's on Socialist Security, she can get ID. EVERYONE WHO WAS BORN IN 1933 has a socialist security number, by law, or they can't work. And they couldn't work in the 1950's, 60's, 70's, 80's, etc.

    So, to use a colloquialism used by the peasantry, you're full of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    If morons cant find the water hole its clearly a racist water hole.
     
  21. Mayor Snorkum

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    No, we have the responsibility to ensure this.

    We also have the responsibility to make sure they're registered to vote in the precinct they're attempting to vote in, and we've the responsibility to make sure that they're registered to vote in one, and only one, precinct.

    DemocRATs are against all this, of course, because they can't win elections without cheating.
     
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    Really? The Fifteenth was written to provide scumbucket lawyers with jobs?

    Let's see what the thing really says:

    OH! LOOK! It says right there that it's unlawful to demand proof that a potential voter is a citizen of the United States.

    No.

    Wait.

    It doesn't say that.

    It says that race, color, or status as a slave can't be used to prevent you from voting.

    It says nothing about being too stupid to get ID.
     
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    Right, so it does.

    Cite the place were is says that voters aren't required to prove they're eligible to vote, no matter what color or how stupid.

    Explain why you support voter fraud.

    Don't waste time pretending you don't.
     
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    Congressthing Sanchez pushed B-1 Bob Dornan out of office with illegal alien votes.

    Slut Jane Harman was re-elected on at least one occasion with illegal alien votes.

    The DemocRATs have been counting on the Invader vote for decades, and the Invader vote can't happen as easily if voters are required to present ID.

    Why do you want electoral fraud to continue, even if, as you falsely claim, this particular easily prevented mode of fraud is infrequent?

    Honest people stand against voter fraud in all forms. You do not oppose this form of voter fraud. And it's clear what this says about you.
     
  25. Johnny-C

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    All they REALLY need, is a signature on-file.
     
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