Waitress who made claims of "homophobia" against patron, suspended from job

I don't deny that reality. You are still missing the point.

You haven't convinced me that you know crap about crap so far.

Another idiotic generalization. "Gay men" as a group are not prejudiced toward lesbians. Some gay men are. In other news, water is wet. The absence of any qualifier implies "all", not "some". It's exactly the kind of tactic that anti-gay people use to further malign and stereotype gay people, and when called out on it, pretend that they didn't mean all.

To which I say, "Bovine Excrement".

Whatever.

Well, you're doing a really poor job of persuading me otherwise when you make statements like the above.

It's not about political correctness. It's about accuracy and reality - things utterly lacking from your statements on the matter.

Resorting to slurs now? Dig the hole deeper.

 

She's butch.
It's obvious.
Of course this doesn't automatically mean she only likes women, but her appearance is definitiely one stressing masculinity not femininity.

If this person doesn't want people to think that, then I suggest they go with a different look...because the image they project is butch.

Mirrors are not expensive, all one has to do is glance into one and see the image they project to the World...she projects..."I'm butch" how are you.

Sorry that makes me a bigot, but this is how it is.

 

Agreed, this kinda "Team" mentality is not a asset for the campus. Get students from all walks of life involved if a response team is needed.

Actually, do away with the response team. Just send an arm of the student body if such a request is made. Giving Teams title like this creates more division. This goes for race, sex, religious or whatever team....

 

"Evidence" of what ?

I posted a goofy pic of Jodie Foster to a guy who posted a good looking pic, just to mess with him.
Just because you're gay you aren't obligated to be fauxffended on her behalf.
Maybe I was right when I said it's just a hobby for many.

Why have you taken my post of an ugly pic, to a guy posting a good pic, so personally?
Why not just put me on ignore like you claimed to a week ago ?

 

I didn't claim a week ago that I was putting you on ignore. You must have me confused with another poster.

As noted in an earlier exchange, you are posting in an open forum, and anyone can comment on what you say/post. So spare me your faux outrage over having your (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ry pointed out.

 

What part of my comment had ANYTHING to do with you replying?

I simply asked why you are so personally gayffended ?

Why is it when you have no response... you fall back on "everyone is allowed to respond!".
Of course they are... it would just be nice if it made sense.

Like I said... back up the "ignore".
Your life will obviously be a lot less upsetting.

 

Sounds like a new TV Drama.

 

Asks the person who baits people with made-up words very obviously intended to be taken as offensive, like the above.

As for your question, if you're going to behave this way, then I don't feel that you're entitled to an answer.

I'm not going to put you on ignore just because you don't like being challenged.

 

Yeah, the BIRT for short.

 

Sure, but it isn't like gays and leftists don't paint with the same broad brush when it comes to republicans, conservatives, people of faith, or anyone who doesn't join their agenda.

 

Im not aware of anyone claiming to be the victim of the media. Do you have an example? And I would say its nothing like that at all, unless they are also fabricating evidence of this victimization. And no one claims its relevant to all gay people,

 

http://moonbattery.com/?p=22356
A Nebraska woman who claimed she was attacked by three men who carved anti-gay slurs into her arms and stomach was found guilty Monday of making a false report.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=15493
For example, a 22-year-old of the politically favored sodomite persuasion recently suffered a nasty beating at the hands of three homophobes in Missoula, inspiring gasps of righteous outrage. Oh wait:

Joseph Baken, of Billings, suffered the bruises and cuts to his face when he smashed it against a curb while attempting to stick an Olympic-style backflip in the street, he said.

The young con-artist pleaded guilty to making a false report on Tuesday

http://moonbattery.com/?p=13683
A college student who complained about receiving anti-gay notes, has admitted to police that she wrote them herself.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=11969
Two lesbians who claimed to be victims of a hate crime last year when hateful messages were scrawled on their Colorado home are now being accused of perpetrating a hoax.

Aimee Whitchurch, 37, and Christel Conklin, 29, told authorities last October that vandals had spray-painted “Kill the Gay” on their garage door and left a noose on their doorstep.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/04/anti-homosexual.html
University of North Carolina freshman Quinn Matney made the news with claims that he was called a bad name and even burned with a piece of hot metal for being a homosexual. Like most outlandish hate crimes attributed to the enemies of political correctness, his story is fake:

A UNC-Chapel Hill freshman who told police he was attacked by a man who burned his hand and called him an anti-gay slur made a false report, the university says.

 

Well, we also don't have a political party dedicated to denying those people equal rights either, like the GOP does to us. So there's a pretty big difference there. Or maybe I should post the GOP platform?

And what is our agenda again?

 

See, here is where your holier than thou attitude falls apart--the GOP isn't "dedicated" to denying those people equal rights. There are lots of members of the GOP that support a rights expansion for gays. Others see it as them already have]ing equal rights. Some in the GOP just don't support giving them special rights in their view. Most probably couldn't care less either way.

 

So you're basically answering my complaint about stereotyping with even more stereotyping. Seriously: If this is the level of argument I'm to expect from you, then don't anticipate me wasting much time on you.

 

None of which means all gay people act this way, despite your transparent effort to make it seem as if we do.

 

Feel free to disengage. Your bigotry bored me before now.

 

I presume that because this was posted here in this subforum, it was because the op seems to think it has relevance to gay prior and gay rights in general, as opposed to just some random story about dune random person who happens to be gay doing a bad thing. More specifically, I was referring to sec who made the statement about the one sided media elsewhere. it is his purpose for making such threads, "exposing" the bias which is apparently relevant to more than the individuals involved. just as you express how"common" it is by posting a few anecdotes. if it is a problem, fine. It just bewilders me how important important stupid creep like this is and why others must answer for it.

In short, this woman seems to have some major character flaws. Done. Is there any other point to this? Is there something you would like to say about the lgbt because of what she did?

 

Actually, I didn't even hear about the case, but I get the impression that you are watching closely for them.

That said, in my mind, the only thing worse than believing someone who claims they were victimized when they really were not is the opposite... NOT believing someone when they really were. Yes, there can be and often are people who take advantage of that, and I have no sympathy for them. The story of the "boy who cryed wolf" comes to mind, and I trust that this girl will get what she deserves.

Actually, if you include everyone who has had homosexual sex, the number gets up closer to 7% or higher. Cultural nuances get involved otherwise, such as people and cultures that do not identify "dominant" partners as homosexual, among other nuances, but we don't need to get into that

Don't forget, it's 3.4% over generations and generations and centuries and centuries who can and have had every part of their lives, personal, spiritual, financial, legal, and even their own deaths effected by it. Virtually everyone who is in a homosexual relationship has their lives effected by health insurance in a way that heterosexual relationships don't, and this is over the course of their entire lives. That said, I'm sorry for those who have had their plans changed. Mine was canceled too, and was automatically enrolled for me in another plan. I'd still call that a pretty poor comparison to what gay people deal with over the course of their whole lives over the course of generations and centuries.

 

I suppose this phrase deserves a bit more attention.

It's rather amazing that only 10 years ago, laws had to be invalidated in 13 states to legalize something that "most people could give a rats behind" about, where only just as recently, it was legally barred from being a basis with which to deny someone custody of their children, where it was only within the last presidency that it could get you removed from the military and other government jobs, where I myself have been personally harassed, say the disparity institutionalized myself when my summer camp separated ll of the gay kids and put them away from everyone else, where I currently feel the legal disparity given that my partner of 8 years has recently gotten very ill, lost his job and insurance and I'm unable to put him on mine since we are not "married", and wasn't able to help him in the emergency surgery he went through with medical insurance, paperwork and other logistics. Frankly, none of that was anything compared to the isolation I felt when I was young from my family, my church and my peers, but that's a whole other story.

All in all, I feel I've had it fairly easy. I've seen the effects of bigotry first hand, but given my age, the support I've had and where I live, and the major changes we've seen even in just the last 10 years, I've gotten through it. It's nothing compared to the stories I've heard from people from other generations and geographic locations. Still, it is there. For most, I don't think it will be something they have to face more that occasionally and will have minimal impact on them in adulthood, though this is certainly not true of everyone.

 

No sure we can trust the source of the story; after all its the mainstream media and as we've been told time and time again how you cannot believe anything the mainstream media tells us.

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No sure we can trust the source of the story; after all its the mainstream media and as we've been told time and time again how you cannot believe anything the mainstream media tells us.

 

As I've said countless times

I don't stop going to a dentist because he/she is a homosexual. I stop because he/she is either too expensive or kept drilling too darn deep

On the flip side, I don't choose my dentist because he/she is heterosexual.

It's not about our bedroom antics, it's about how we conduct ourselves in our lives. However, I will never understand why it seems that homosexuals find it necessary to say that they are a "homosexual dentist" instead of being happy as a good dentist

 

Update....

A New Jersey waitress who received thousands of dollars in gratuities after claiming she received an anti-gay note in lieu of a tip is reportedly issuing refunds to those who gave donations.

Dayna Morales, a 22-year-old former Marine, claimed last month that a family of four who racked up a $93.55 bill at the Gallop Asian Bistro in Branchburg, N.J., left her no tip, only a note saying they couldn’t leave any extra cash for her service because they “do not agree with your lifestyle.”

Morales quickly emailed the story to a gay advocacy website and later posted a photograph of the purported check on her Facebook page. The alleged incident made national headlines and resulted in thousands of dollars being donated to Morales, who said she would send all proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project.

NBCNewYork.com reported Friday that three people who sent money to a PayPal account set up in her name say their donations were refunded. One of her supporters, Brittney Stilgenbauer of Tuscon, Ariz., said she felt bad about the situation.

"I felt awful for her, and I thought it would be great if people could come together and donate a dollar each and make up for her tip that she lost," said Stilgenbauer, who encouraged Morales to set up a PayPal account to accept donations.

At least one man who sent cash to Morales at the restaurant told NBCNewYork.com he has not gotten the money back. Morales did not respond to requests for comment from the station.

Meanwhile, a representative of the Florida-based Wounded Warrior Project could not confirm Morales had made any donations as of Wednesday, Bridgewater Patch reported.

A representative for the nonprofit group that caters to veterans returning from overseas checked for donations by Morales’ name and within the ZIP codes for Bridgewater, N.J., where she worked, and Bedminster, where Morales said she lives, and was unable to locate any correlating donations. The donations may have been made from a different ZIP code or by a third-party, the representative told the website.

Morales, who served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve from July 2009 through May 2013 in Newburgh, N.Y., as an administrative specialist, could not be reached for comment. Restaurant manager Byron Lapola told NJ.com earlier this week that she remains off the schedule, at least temporarily.

“We’re still waiting for the owners to finish their investigation,” Lapola told the website. “It’s pretty complex, so until then we’re restraining comment.”

The couple accused of leaving the note for Morales has since denied doing so, telling NBC 4 New York they did in fact leave an $18 tip on the $93 bill. The unidentified couple also provided the station a credit card statement that indicated the tip, according to the report.

NBC News has also reported that a Pentagon source said Morales was dismissed from the Marine Reserve Corps in May because she was not attending drills and that she was discharged under “less than honorable” conditions.

Several of Morales’ acquaintances also since questioned her credibility. Kristina Calamusa, who described herself as a former friend of Morales, told The Daily Caller late last month that the waitress claimed to her that she was “blown up by a land mine overseas.”

But, according to Calamusa, that story was false; Morales was never on active duty. The Journal News of White Plains, N.Y., has also quoted acquaintances of Morales who say she lied about her military service.

Julie Howat and Karolee Larkin, both 23, related to the newspaper a story Morales supposedly told them about her serving in Afghanistan and surviving an explosion that killed everyone in her platoon, leaving her as the unit’s sole survivor. But Maj. Shawn Haney, a spokesman for the Marines, said in an email to The Journal News that while Morales did serve in the Marines Corps reserve from July 2009 to May 2013, there’s no indication in her record of combat service in Afghanistan or Iraq.

“While (Morales) did not fulfill her reserve obligation, per the Privacy Act, administrative actions are not releasable,” Haney said. “The same applies to character of service and type of discharge.”

 

Maybe they do it because they feel it can make them more money by "serving a niche market". I'm sure even you could respect that, given how clearly you've stated you'd even put rainbow flags in your store front if you knew it could make you more money. That said I'm not sure what you and your opinion has to do with my post. Your statement that this kind of discrimination "doesn't exist" and people don't "give a rat's behind" is patently false. I mean hell, it was only 2 years ago that it stopped being the policy of the military as required by Congress to "give a rat's behind", and could be a legitimate basis for removal from government jobs in general. But I can see you were not concerned with my post regardless. While I am happy with the fairness you profess to treat people with, you are one person. It is but a drop in the bucket for the kinds of experiences have faced.