WAR ON THE STREETS OF PARIS: Armed migrants fight running battles in French capital

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  1. Brewskier

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    "Gun control" doesn't work. You shouldn't expect it to.
     
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    It's working in France, where the invaders only have boards and no guns.
     
  3. Brewskier

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    It's ironic you say this, almost 1 year to the day after 130 were killed by shooters in Paris.
     
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    By terrorists. You don't get to claim that gun control "doesn't work" because of the occasional exception. It makes a difference where it's implemented effectively.
     
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    And here's pot calling kettle. Hey we have had 8 years of intellectual ideological adherence or simply put bull crap! How is our country better? Every single thing you liberal lemmings try to defend is debunked, we have a completely ineffectual government, we are more divided than ever, our foreign policies catering to conservative Muslim ideology has resulted in the displacement of millions of people, Hillary is a proven criminal, and the world hates us

    Go pander your pretty words somewhere else. Methinks you have a bad case of the I like to hear myself talks

    Now as to the OP, what you have there is the modern plague for France, it's our fault partly we need to take ownership of it. What needs to happen is peace made with Russia then Europe, the US and Russia stabilize Syria quickly after telling all those Arab countries what's going to happen... Then? Deport them all back to their countries of origin once peace is found and help Syria and Iraq rebuild. Expensive.. Yes but the alternative is far worse
     
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    France, which you claim has effective gun control, didn't stop terrorists from acquiring firearms and mowing down 130 people, and injuring hundreds more. Criminals, who didn't give a crap about gun control laws, still found a way. That's the concept. "Gun control" only stops the people who are legally able to acquire guns from owning them, and it leaves them defenseless against those who are not law abiding.

    I bet you want an end to the war on drugs, too. The irony won't be visible to you.
     
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    A case like this gets a lot of attention, but it's a lot harder to show the positive. This "war on the streets of Paris" situation does highlight that, however. Again, these violent foreigners don't have guns. Gun control is working today. It works a lot, and it doesn't have to work 100% of the time to be a good thing with a net positive effect.

    Kind of like seatbelts. They save more lives than they take. You can't say they don't work because of the occasional failure.
     
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    How many of those involved in "the war on the streets" used guns?
     
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    "Violent foreigners" have tons of guns, despite laws being there to prevent them from having them. Look at the myriad of Hispanic gangs in this country as just one example.

    You can't claim it's a "net positive" because you have no way of knowing that. You never even bother to look at the other side of the equation, on how many lives are saved because of guns.

    There are 300 million guns in this country, and the overwhelming majority are owned by the law-abiding white majority. Why are you trying to disarm them? They aren't causing any problems. Minority gang violence is the problem in this country. Remove that, and we would have a murder rate on par with France and any other white Western country you could name.
     
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    Uh, you don't want to look at *our* country as an example of gun control. We're sorely lacking it (and that's the way you like it). Remember?
     
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    oh those poor migrants. good thing we brought them into our countries so they can work and contribute. Clearly these are people who will make model-citizens, and enrich our societies with diversity. This is the new europe :)
     
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    Your lack of response on my point about minority gangs is very telling. Why focus on the problem, after all? The anti-gun agenda is only actualized when the law-abiding white guy who wants to defend his family has his guns taken away and is reliant on the Government for protection, right?
     
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    You think gang members got such a busy agenda that they can't drive to the town next door and buy what they need? lol

    I prefer that the use of violence is a monopoly of the government, so that slaver flag waving far right wingers like Scott Greene don't got weapons to kill cops. But I guess you want white people to have guns and black people do not. Kind of sense that thing with your comments in your previous post. Apartheid much?
     
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    I really doubt those people are migrants. It's far more likely they are born and raised French people, like their fathers, but with grandparents who were violently oppressed in Africa under the nazi like French colonial rule.
     
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    You think gang members, who likely have a criminal record, are going into gun stores, going through background checks, in order to buy guns? lol

    Most of the cops that have been killed lately have been killed by BLM and their supporters. I guess that's OK though, right? Do you only care about cops when "far right wingers" are involved?

    I think the law-abiding white majority should continue to own guns legally. Black gang members? Not so much.
     
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    Now that is astoundingly funny.
     
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    A poster already pointed out that this video was a recycled one from April...and who know where that one was gotten from. Right wing propaganda sites abound and as soon as Trump loses, there will be another one for conspiracy crazies to flock to on Trump TV.
     
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    The RW echo chamber doesn't even check out the pathetically ludicrous imbecility that spews from the Fever Swamp.

    They simply blindly post it on social media and have no shame about making fools of themselves. :salute:
     
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    You think weapons just appear on the streets out of thin air? lol

    Black people have been victimized by a rather racist police force that had apartheid policies like it still was the 1960's, resulting in mass incarceration the black community and murdering unarmed black people. It's a fact. But I guess you think that's ok.

    Seems you only care when a white cop is killed by a black person.

    By omitting to comment on law abiding black majority and white thugs and far right scum,....
    yeah... apartheid much?
     
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    Yeah the video was created by Industrial Light and Magic, or maybe Pixar.
     
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    They buy them on the streets, illegally. They aren't going to stores and submitting to background checks.

    So the cops deserve to be murdered by blacks? Yes or no.

    Blacks are mass incarcerated because they commit a disproportionately high amount of crime. Although I understand why you'd want to make excuses for them. They vote Democrat pretty reliably.

    Nice deflection attempt.

    There is no "law abiding black majority" in this country. We have a white majority. Blacks are only 13% of the US population, so how could they have a majority?

    White ownership of guns is the highest of any racial group. They commit a disproportionately low amount of violent crime compared to their population size. The same cannot be said about blacks.

    Sorry facts appear "racist".
     
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    I suppose both sides of the aisle indulge in this ubiquitous nonsense garbage but something tells me that the right wing crazies have more of these websites and we already know how easily they buy into this stuff . Trump has capitalized off of this for his entire campaign.

     
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    How is the nation better after 8 years? have you even looked a the key economic indicators?

    More divided than ever? Yeah, the tea party and the party of no and the divisiveness of Trump's nationalist politics have NOTHING to do with it.

    Yeah all that catering to muslim ideology, has gotten what? Oh yeah three muslim armies finally kicking the crap out of ISIS.

    Hillary is not a proven criminal any more so than donald is. Of course, Hillary isn't in the same league as donald when it comes to sexism, fraud, bigotry, wild arsed accusations, outright lying, and schoolyard bully tactics.

    the world does not hate the US. Might want to check with Pew on global opinions of the US since Obama came to power.

    As for your OP response, peace with Russia the correct term is "Appeasement" given their recent track record which trumpettes seem to blithely ignore. As for "telling" the arab countries what is going to happen, such dictatorial arrogant pronouncements certainly are Putin like. Seems you like that kind of leadership and to hell with liberty and freedom, hello censorship and kleptocracy.

    I find it rather humorous that fluency in english is so intimidating to some. BTW, for your own edification, one doesn't pander pretty words, one panders WITH words.
     
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    The alt-right has a tenuous grasp on reality, and there are days where they don't even try. I pity them.
     
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    Sounds like you better get out and vote! Our voices must be added to the clamor.
     

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