War with Iran?

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What are you talking about? Your perceptions are very unusual.

 

My posts were removed due to personal attack? There was no personal attack at all, as can be seen in Albert Di Salvo's quote of my comment above.

So much for freedom of speech...

 

Yes, I have to say I rather wondered about that. I wonder if the mod concerned made a mistake and confused your post with another? She is a scrupulously fair lady and a very good mod, so it didn't make any sense to me either. But it is not good form to discuss mod decisions in open forum, so I suggest you take it up with her via PM.

 

I agree with you, the regime needs war. But what if it fires back to their face? what if our green movement, with a hope for a possible help (I know US leaders and other countries are not thinking about Iranian people, but some people think otherwise, you must have heard those who are dreaming a liberation like what happened in Iraq) gets to action like a fire under the ashes, and defeat the regime which will be busy in the war?

The regime has too many problems now. I believe if they are asking for a war (which apparently they are) hoping that it will be for their benefit, are miss calculating this time.

 

What i am puzzled over with this US vs iran mess.

Is russia. The russians have long term projects with the iranians to complete nuclear installations.

Now any war or strike against the iranian sites would end up endangering russian interests and possibly their people scientists/military.

So the question, is the usa such single minded to do this in the view they risk the wrath of the kremlin if the putin goverment doesnt step aside.

 

This is a minor factor in the cost/benefit analysis now being undertaken.

 

A minor effort to risk the wrath of the second largest nuke power on earth?

This seems the current problem with the american rush to war, ignoring the huge complextiies of nations like iran who have relations with powerfull countries who risk their own loss of profit/resources.

 

Place yourself in Russian shoes. Do the cost/benefit analysis from their standpoint. In the grand scheme of things the Russians would get over it. Especially if they were compensated.

 

I think the biggest issue for Russia is that US will get too close if invade Iran, in fact, russia gets surrounded by US then. I think the war threat is to make Iran`s regime cooaporate, unfortunately the regime seems to think the same and that`s why they won`t stop.

 

Put myself in russian shoes?

A day in the life of vlad putin, Mr serious dont Fcku with me!

ummm, I think he would be pissed and want to hurt anything american if the usa hurt russian interests.

 

Surrounding russia,

Let us revierw this plan.

If the goal is to hurt russia by cutting off business interests with iran and moving the usa military closer to the putin regime. It seems insane. As the kremllim just as fanatical with military agendas as the washington is.

Then again i am not american, you seem to dismiss russia as weak, and easy to control. A very dangerous plan.

 

Putin is already hostile. He can only operate within limited parameters. Lots of Russians think Putin is scum.

 

Lots of americans viewed bush junior as scum but the threat of hurt usa interests over seas caused nationalism to rear its ugly head.

Same happen with russia, strenghting putins position and the hard right in the kremlin. But is this really the goal to sabber rattle from wasnginton and dare the their opposition in the kremllin to make a move?

 

Wrong perspective. America is evolving in a direction in which it is absolutely no threat to Russia. That's the long term direction. Non-interventionism is the long term trend in America. But that won't protect Iran from Israel in the short term.

 

America isn't going to initiate an attack on Iran. Israel will. Then Iran will attack America.

 

Back to my original question. It is no secret the huge russian involvemnt with iran. They have setup long term projects and stationed their people in the country. So again will israel risk going against russian interests?

Remember this is a hugely complicated situation, nations have relations and business deals from military giants like russia who wont be happy in losing their own foriegn policy goals.