Warren is on the warpath against the second amendment again

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    https://robertgarcia.house.gov/medi...Congressman,businesses who sell ammunition to

    Most serious shooters buy in quantity to save money and time. I usually buy 22 LR ammo in case lots of 5000-which costs about 100-150 dollars. Guess what Lieyawatha--people who murder others aren't buying 1000s of rounds of ammo in 99% of the cases. It's just another scheme by some of the most worthless POSs in congress and the senate to harass gun owners and lawful shooting sports participants.
     
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    “Right now, any person can legally purchase tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition in a single transaction with no questions asked, not even a background check."

    Yes.
    It's called "freedom".
     
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    Yeah, the 30,000 people who die every year from gunshot wounds are truly free.
     
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    Sad. Up your game.
     
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    Most of those are self inflicted.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If anyone can show me even one instance of someone using a handgun or rifle bullet to commit a crime, without a gun to fire that bullet, I would be extremely surprised.
    Can anyone show one example of a crime that would have been prevented if background checks were required for buying bullets, in addition to guns (which is already required)?

    (keep in mind almost no crimes are committed with homemade guns, it is extremely super rare, at least in the U.S. Apparently it's much easier and pragmatic for a criminal to illegally obtain a gun from somewhere else. Not only that but homemade guns often do not work very well and may not be reliable)
     
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    Why do you need that much ammo? Is your aim that bad :p
     
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    So? And most of those committing suicide are while middle class males - you want to accelerate “race replacement” hand out more guns
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well I crushed Australia's top skeet shooter at some world cup years ago. I was shooting 300-400 targets a day sometimes back then. How many golf balls to you think Tiger woods hit on his way to being world #1. How many table tennis balls do you think Ma Long (THE GOAT in that sport) hit before he won the Gold medal and world championship? I roomed with Mikael Applegren at the 1981 US Open at Princeton University. He told me that his training regiment including an entire grocery cart full of table tennis balls for service practice several times a week. Do you have any idea how many TT balls you can put in a grocery cart?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well black on black murders are keeping the black numbers down because most of those killed are probably at the age where they start fathering children while the white suicides are past that age.
     
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    not true-they always ask me "Credit card or cash"?
     
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    How about the millions of people killed by their own government after being disarmed.
     
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    That makes no sense...lol
     
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    Drunk drivers kill more than shooters. Ban alcohol?

    ...or can we agree that some danger is allowed to exist in a free society?
     
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    It is the white middle aged males who are killing themselves at a rate of around 20,000 per year

    https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2023/c... the gun homicide rate,by gun suicide in 2022.
    Statistica has the numbers
    https://www.statista.com/statistics...ide-deaths-in-the-united-states-by-ethnicity/
    20,000 white people died from gun suicide compared to only 1,500 black people
     
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    Does America not have drunk driving laws?
     
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    And?
     
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    For there to be background checks to buy ammo, there must first be laws which prohibit selling ammo to, presumably, certain people.
     
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    Did you avoid his question?
    Why?
     
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    And the majority of the rest are gang violence.

    Subtract suicide and gang violence and the firearm homicide rates in the United States look much like any other Nation
     
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    That should make the progressives pretty happy.

    After all we are told that the white middle-aged male is the devil himself walking upon Earth
     
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    I never heard of this before, but based on the text, you could still buy 1000 rounds every 5 days.

    I don't see the point though. Even if someone was plotting some kind of armed revolution, they would still easily stockpile hundreds of thousands of rounds under this law. Gang bangers are probably happy having just 2-3 loaded magazines around, or about 50 rounds.

    Suiciders need just one.
     
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    yes and we have dozens of laws that ban using a firearm to harm others. Your desire is akin to wanting another crack at prohibition
     
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    the main goal is getting more registration lists and to create a precedent that they will build on over time-1000 rounds now, 500 rounds next year, 100 rounds in five years etc
     
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    Yes, its illegal to drive while intoxicated. Its also illegal to carry a gun while intoxicated. Why is it, do you think, we accept that current restrictions on alcohol are adequate, but current restrictions on guns are not, even though alcohol results in more untimely death? FAR more if we take into account deaths from alcohol related illness such as liver disease.
     
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