Warren is on the warpath against the second amendment again

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  1. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Repeating your lie doesn't make it true.
     
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    All I see here is your inability to demonstrate otherwise.
     
  3. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I'll make it easy for you, tell me operating a car in public doesnt need to be regulated, then you will at least be consistent with your protests.
     
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    What do you call the emphasized portion then o wise and learned one? Is it not a progressive slide into further and further restrictions? Do you know what these acts are? Don't be ashamed to ask now, hear?

    It went from no restrictions, to the NFA, which was added to with the GCA, which was further restricted by the Hughes amendment to FOPA, which was further restricted by the Brady Bill, which lapsed once and the grabbers have been trying to revive everywhere ever since.
    They're floating ammunition restrictions. Purchase restrictions. Purchase approvals. ETC. Want to know what they did before they passed the NFA? They floated it.
    Same way you put the saddle blanket on the ****ing fence before you try to stick it on the horse.
     
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    You don't have a right to operate a car in public. You do have a right to keep and bear arms, which shall not be infringed.

    See the difference or do I need to explain privileges vs rights?
     
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    Still making my point.
     
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    How do you figure? Is your point that you don't know the difference between a privilege and a right?
     
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    Road travel via automobile horse buggy etc is not a privlage its a protected right, and car is a form of arms.
    So thats 2 protections that are regulated and yet haven't stopped anyone from operating their car arms.
     
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    I laugh at your and your inability to meaningfully address the points put to you, and your concession, necessarily attached to same

    The gun and ammunition regulations you described are unnecessary, ineffective, and violate the Constitution.
    Thus, at BEST, they are meant to harass people.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    You cannot demonstrate how they would harass people can you.
    Appreciate the concession my self.
     
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    No, traveling the roads is a protected right. Operating the motor vehicle yourself is not.
    A car is not an arm, any more than a 2x4 is an arm. It can be put to that purpose, like any solid object, but that is not its purpose.

    Operating the firearm yourself? Keeping it on your person in public (ie to bear)? That is an enumerated right.

    Confusion cleared up now?
     
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    Sure we can: You're making me follow an arbitrary and capricious law which is ineffective to its stated purpose, which directly violates my rights. A general term for that would be harassment.
     
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    You seem to be confused as you keep making my point thinking you are disagreeing with me.
     
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    How do you figure?
     
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    Sounds like an argument against prohibition if you ask me.
     
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    You need to troll better.
    Back into the pit.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    1) cars are not constitutionally protected
    2) the people advocating licenses for cars don't generally want to ban cars. Most of the people who want registrations and Licensing of guns are opposed to people owning guns-especially people who aren't left-wingers
    3) the registration of cars is a revenue stream.
     
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    It very much is. Try to remain on topic. If you'd like to discuss why cocaine should be legal, start a new thread and I'll wholeheartedly agree there.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Let's be honest-your posting history demonstrates a hostility to gun owners and gun ownership.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Then we are on the same page, the government routinely does things they dont have the constitutional authority to do.
     
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    Except i belive there are to many guns on the streets for any ban to have an effect. Im pro gun.

    Assume everyone is armed.
     
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    Your refusal to remain consistent is not me trolling, nice try.
     
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    That sort of goes without saying. You thought you needed to obtain agreement as to that?
    Our entire point is that gun control is unconstitutional. Do you imagine gun control doesn't exist?
     
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    interesting-pro gun rights people never support registration or requiring a license to own a gun
     
  25. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I imagine that if the pro gun movement cared about their rights so much they would stop acting like children.
    No one is banning guns, period. Regulations do have a positive affect if done properly, and will do more for the movement then throwing temper tantrums everytime some are proposed.
     

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