What has Feminism taken away from you?

Yes, they are. Otherwise, the standards for cops, firefighters, and military members would not have been lowered!

 

So, in other words, you believe the value of a man is his ability to, "get laid" and a woman's value is her sexual availability to you. Your beliefs are part and parcel of what leads to rape-talk about rape culture, jeash

 

Nope. High on life. Doesn't change the reality that men are not the best at the baby thing and women tend not to be good at the physical labor stuff.

http://funkypickens.com/how-to-be-a-parent/

 

Prove a negative?

No wonder you quote someone who's work is worthless.

 

It is NOT okay for a feminist to say such a thing to a man....but as I am not a feminist that is really not what is going on here.

Standing up for and respecting women does not place a man into any category other than a nice person. Just as doing the opposite makes it likely a man is avoided as unpleasant and thus my comment. Thank you for the history and beliefs as to why you are so bitter toward women....it certainly explains much.

 

Nope....and I don't see how you extrapolated that out of my comments. I will admit however, that I find great value in sex with my wife, as does she. This would be perhaps......2% of her value in my mind.

 

No wonder you have nothing to say.


Interesting, I came by the human face of Mary Koss and found an interesting, quite extraordinary woman.

In this video she discusses 'restorative justice' which is a far cry from the bizarre depictions of her by the anti-feminists. She advocates the perpetrator and victim meet and the rape is talked through and the victim gets to tell the rapist what he did to her and the effects on her. Nowhere in this video does Mary Koss display anything other than respect and compassion for the human condition.

It goes to show the obsession anti-feminists have with discrediting and bashing prominent academics - in this case a feminist academic. And trying to ferment a particularly grubby form of 'hatred'. Mary Koss is head and shoulders above the fray that try to discredit her. I was particularly inspired to see her video.

[video=youtube;JHkBk3Ot1Uo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHkBk3Ot1Uo[/video]

 

This kinda bugged me....so I need to reply to it.

Your use of the term "Rape" indicates a misunderstanding of a very disturbing aspect of human sexuality and may also be a hint as to your position in this, as well as the ways you see a feminist everywhere you look. You were not "Raped" hundreds of times, as this clearly shows some level of either acceptance of the situation or consent to sex.....unless by chance she was a 200 lb. mad hot cheerleader and you are a 50 lb. effeminate wimp that has problems ripping a wet tissue. There are also forms of birth control that are 100% effective...One of which I have personally taken advantage of to avoid having any more children.

Two days with a bag of frozen peas, and presto/chango.....I can enjoy sex without risk.

 

I have to say in some 'feminist' circles the movement has mutated into becoming bizarrely anti-male. For example I have witnessed the hypocrisy of a so called 'feminist' defending male circumcision. I ask her about female circumcision, and she says it is barbaric. Of course most female circumcision is of a kind objectively worse than male circumcision, but obviously the only principled stance to take is that unconsented non-medical modification of anyone's genitalia is mutilation. This is not a riff of feminism as a whole, just a recent mutation of the movement.

Feminism has also for the most part failed to explain itself to modern male audiences. Most men, even intelligent ones, think of feminism as a purely women's movement resisting one-sided oppression. But feminism is not so simple as opposition to men oppressing women, it is a principled multi-layered stance against ingrained gender roles and the ways in which they make our society dysfunctional. Women in most cases get the short stick, but on some level we are all oppressed and restricted by gender roles.

 

Looks like being a misogyn is a bit like being an addict, they cant see that they have a problem.

'Course, they take it another step and project their problem onto others.

Any woman should be able to smell that kind a mile off.

 

"Extrapolate" is a very polite way to say "made up".

I noticed others who have to make things up in order to have an argument or complaint. Example: women officially recognized by the government as mentally and physically challenged people

 

I try to be as polite as possible....though this is difficult at times...heh.

 

We see the same thing with any ism or religion, people attaching themselves to it but running their own agenda.

I wonder if it is in some ways comparable to how the blacks and now the gays have a problem "explaining themselves".

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Unfortunately Im kind of an excitable sort and dont always speak as gently as mom tried to teach me.

 

I was 14 and she was 18. In America, in Washington State, that's statutory rape, but I suppose you're one of those feminists who believe men cannot be raped-right

...and 43% of the women Koss counted as rape victims continued to have sex with their rapists. Clearly, in your own words, doesn't this, "show some level of either acceptance of the situation or consent to sex"

But I suppose according to you, just like according to Koss, you believe women don't know when they've been raped-right?

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That's certainly a rich statement coming from a feminist

 

Ad Hominen attacks are the last bastion of a position that cannot withstand scrutiny, and feminists resort to ad hominen attacks because they don't have evidence to support their beliefs.

I'm not, "bitter toward women." What have I ever said that indicates I'm bitter towards women. It's true I'm a critic of a justice system that is openly hostile towards men and fathers, and I'm a critic of feminism, but every feminist is not a women, and not every woman is a feminist, and your inability to acknowledge this truth is as indicative that you're a feminist as any name you give yourself

 

It is clear to me that there is no point in further attempts to discuss this with you, as the attitude and heartfelt opinions you project, along with what seems a fixation on claiming I am a feminist cannot be challenged by rational explanation or thought.

You are dismissed.

 

You are dismissed?

 

This merely an indication that the individual no longer serves a purpose to me in debate or discussion, and is thus no longer of importance or desired for entertainment. Though it can seem flippant and somewhat derogatory, it was chosen partially due to those attributes.

 

LOL-

 

Just like, according to you, a woman's purpose is her sexual availability to you, and a man's value is his ability to, "get laid"

 

I see from notifications he replied to my last post, but like you, I find
that no discussion with said person is worthwhile. if he reads this he
will know he is on ig and staying that way.

 

Yet again: that is indisputably true. You not wanting something to be true DOES NOT MAKE THAT FACT!

 

Gotcha, establishing a pecking order.

As for feminism, unnecessary baggage and messy self absorbed people come in many forms. Nothing special.

 

I just look at it like this you lost the debate, your position doesn't have a leg to stand on. Hence why you continually resort to lies and ad hominen attacks because you don't have any proof to support your beliefs. So thanks for your concession

...and I thought feminists were supposed to be tough??? girl power and all that???-LOL

 

I just look at his statement for what it is. He lost the debate and now he's trying to save face.