What immigrant crime wave?

Tell us you are completely for an open border without just coming out and saying it.

Here's a fun fact.... Native Americans immigrated from Siberia.

Immigrants need a legal reason because we actually have laws concerning our border. I know that most of you progressives act like that's racist and that we shouldn't have any laws at all

 

Did he say that he didn't want his children going to school in a racial jungle or that if you didn't vote for him that you're not really black?

If you are willing to overlook that from some other guy.... Then get out of here with that fake wooden nickel outrage of yours

 

She's an acceptable sacrifice on the altar of democrat virtue signaling..... And she's far from the only victim.

On a lighter note.... I wonder how many people involved in car accidents are left sitting there with nothing at all because there was an illegal immigrant behind the wheel with zero insurance.
How many DUI victims of illegals?

 

What's major bullshit is the fact you can't counter a ****ing thing i said....you literally have no response.

There's not a shred of evidence that this has anything to do with race. But again, you don't have a leg to stand on so you default to the race card. You can't argue or show any evidence that the right would feel any differently if those coming across were of a different race. Again, you literally have no response here.

Your argument that it's the right that wants this to remain political completely fails when you give it any thought at all. The right wants the border secure and that would make it a non-issue. It's the left that has made it an issue by completely screwing it up and it literally started the day Biden took office.

I look forward to you not being able to respond....again.

 

Sorry, my apologies. Your comments sounded like zero tolerance to me.

Please quote me, or anyone on this forum, supporting unlimited immigration.

The reason that cities like New York and Chicago want Abbott and DeSantis to stop shipping immigrants (they were not illegals, ffs) to them until the federal government starts funding them for the cost of absorbing such a huge influx, like they do for our border states.

 

Oh come on! They had two years, ffs, and did absolutely nothing, unless you consider this:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built

$15 billion dollars, and no, Mexico did not pay a single peso; we paid for it. Up to $46 million per mile in some places. Out of 1,954 miles of border, new fencing or repaired existing fencing covered 458 miles. And how has that helped? The coyotes went out and bought $100 cordless chain saws and made short work of a lot of that new wall. And more would-be immigrants than ever before are showing up. I don’t see much of an ROI there, do you? Not even the deliberate cruelty of Trump's draconian family separation policy deterred them.

The very conservative measures in the bipartisan bill that passed in the Senate contains practical, much-needed funding for the resources that the border patrol say they need. If Republicans really wanted all of those things they've been insisting on for years, if they really wanted to help ICE, Homeland Security, and our border law enforcement agencies, why won't Speaker Johnson bring the bill to the House floor? I think we could have a more secure, safer, more humane border in less than a year if the GOP wanted to solve problems. You know why they won't do it, right?

 

I see nothing that limits the numbers coming across.

It isn't just the money. The border states and, specifically ranchers, are over run with the illegals. They have ran out of places to put them. Surely, if some of these little towns of a few thousand can handle thousands of illegals, then cities with several million should be able to handle it with no problem.

As a veteran who is suffering after effects from Agent Orange, I resent an illegal coming into the country and receiving more than the paltry little disability compensation which I receive. I am sure there are a few million veterans who feel the same way.

 

Biden stopped the wall. It would solved most of the problem. End of story.

 

That isn't the issue, and isn't the point of this thread. And the percentage is 0.09%. That's the tiny percentage about which Trump has people shaking in their boots.

 

Again, who supports it? Sorry to call you on your deflection here, but I don't know a single person who doesn't think the border is a mess. It isn't a partisan issue, no matter how hard Trump tries to make it one.

 

Not my words. Notice the quotes.

The fact that crime did not rise in NYC after more than 100,000 people were dumped on their streets proves my point and disproves Trump's.

 

The only thing the federal government does is block Texas from arresting and deporting illegals. The DOJ intervened this week to stop Texas from doing this just last week. I hope Abbot defies the federal government and simply arrests and deports them anyway. It would be great optics for the Democrat Party to send in the Stazi to stop a state from doing the job that they refuse to do. It seems like an act of political suicide.

 

Race causes me zero inconvenience. Race is only inconvenient to those who live in fear of this:

https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/4138228-americas-white-majority-is-aging-out/

Please provide proof of that.

 

Biden screwed it up and it would have gotten even better with a wall.

 

Crime in CA in spots has gone down too, because what was once a crime no longer is. Amazing how redefining crime can make it appear that its going "down", when its not. Just like redefining an Illegal as a Migrant instantly makes illegal immigration go "down". Migrants use to be used like birds. They come, they work, they leave. Now, Migrant defines EVERYONE coming and STAYING. They're NOT MIGRANTS. They're the same people that use to sneak in, but many don't have to sneak in, because we're letting them come right through with open arms. No longer "ILLEGAL", even though we all know its the same damn thing.

ANd they are NOT mostly families. That is a total LIE. Any picture you see showing massive crowds, shows mostly single males. Any showing families, is because they've been gathered & filtered into an area to separate them from the hordes of single males. ANd why would you need to separate families? Maybe because all those single males are NOT SAFE?

 

And that is a failure of government at the highest level. Something an actual real impeachment should rightly be based on

 

Trump is harping about violent crime.

There are very smart people who study immigrants and their experiences in detail.

https://www.kff.org/report-section/...3-kff-la-times-survey-of-immigrants-findings/

I'll take their word over that of any forum participant.

Bwaaaahahahahaha! No, they have not. See #81. Please pardon my laughter, but someone has been lying to you. The sequence of events regarding that bipartisan bill is as follows:

1. The administration wants to continue aid to Ukraine, and proposed a spending bill.

2. Republicans in both House and Senate demanded a border protection bill, and stated that they would only pass aid to Ukraine or Israel if it was bundled with a border security package that they would approve.

3. They gave their shopping list to Republican Senator Lankford.

4. Lankford got Democrats to compromise and give the GOP virtually everything on their list.

5. The bill passed in the Senate.

6. Speaker Johnson made no decision until after consulting Trump, who of course nixed the bill and began the propaganda campaign about it being "a very bad bill."

Trump cannot allow any improvements at the border while Biden is still in office. He can only campaign on Biden's failure, so he whines and shouts and growls a lot of unsubstantiated bee ess, often outright lies, to point the finger of blame. His base eats that up, and spreads it everywhere.

 

Nope, no country no border.

 

All Biden has to do is reverse the EOs which he issued after he became president.

Walls are wonderful inventions. I wonder why someone did not think of them sooner.

 

This is reality, not some fantasy John Lennon song.

 

And the reality is that when Native Americans immigrated from Siberia. There were no country no border.

 

Well, it has been said that things are the way they are because someone wants them that way.

But since you are not supportive of the current immigration system, if it was up to you, how would you fix it?

 

I appreciate you admitting that they are adding to an already out of control problem. Keep in mind that there is no screening at the unofficial border crossings, so you have no idea who is coming over. Trump is right on this issue. Even Democrats are starting to sing Trumps song as the influx is reaching a tipping point. While I see plenty of anger on both sides, Dems appear a bit angrier on average.

The left is not in a position to criticize on consuming without question. Someone as awful as Trump would never have a chance if it weren't for the results the other side was producing.

 

Quite a few, I'm sure.

 

Can you source this "shopping list?" I simply don't believe that Lankford listened to anything House Republicans might have said on the issue.