What's the best way to improve Muslims?

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How do we convince Muslims to moderate their faith?

  1. Call them names & call Muhammed a terrorist, murdering pedophile.

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  2. Show them love, generosity, friendship, kindness.

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  3. Kindly suggest improvements to their belief system.

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  4. Politely suggest amendments to the Koran.

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  5. Threaten them with expulsion/internment if they don't do as we demand.

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Off you go then. Convince them that standing up to extremists is a good idea.
     
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    Go ahead. Tell 'em.
     
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    Each other.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not a Muslim. I'm an Atheist.
     
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    Funniest observation of the day - I never would have thought of that - I missed "Texas" in your username.
     
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    Those that try to reform Islam get death threats.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    All the more reason to work with us to eliminate the extremists. And I'm not referring to extremist religious beliefs, but to terrorism.
     
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    When people learn the true extent of Jesus/god's barbarism they will leave the Bible like I did. Trust me. Jesus/god look like a Sunday walk in the park compared to Islam.
     
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    But those extremist religious beliefs (i.e. Sharia) are just as dangerous (FGM, chopping off hands/feet, stoning adulterers, etc.) as Islamic terrorism is.
     
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    From the terrorist faction? I find that to be more a reason for the moderates to work with us to eliminate them.

    As I said, it's a slow process. But everything else has been tried. And hasn't worked.
     
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    No, it's less reason. They don't want to die.
     
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    Keep in mind that even "moderate" Muslims hate you so incredibly much that even when asked point-blank, they REFUSE to condemn Allah for saying that you, Golem (a non-Muslim), deserve nothing but eternal torture for 99.9999999999999%+ of your total existence (counting the infinite "after-life"). No matter how ethical of a life, nor how good of a life you are to live - you don't have the same invisible friend in the sky that they have, so they believe you are scum.

    In all fairness, Jesus/God/Christians are exactly the same way, so of course Christianity is just as evil as Islam is, of course.
     
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    Feel free to tell this to the moderates at your nearest mosque. All the best.
     
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    Discrediting faith will work.
     
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    crank, I'm sure you agree with me that he should go to the MOST holiest place in Islam, Mecca, to do this - why not, right?
     
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    I understand that. And it's a good point. But we need to take it step by step. First eliminate those who wants to kill us and who want to kill the moderates. Then deal with the internal incongruities with Human Rights. It would be ideal to do both at the same time. But I don't think it's possible.
     
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    It has never worked. It emboldens them and creates more extremists.
     
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    Absolutely. Professor Doctor Katie Perry, Madonna, and Merryl Streep should join him. Those gals really know how to tell the poor brown people what to think.
     
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    Christianity took 2000 years to become moderate. We should only let the new most educated and most wealthy Muslims in until their region becomes more moderate.
     
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    Stop letting them in to prevent 3rd worlders from entering the country and breeding:) Watch every mosque like hawks.
     
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    One handy tip: crank, I'm sure you'll agree with me that he can perhaps use some VISUALS to better get his point across better to them at the mosque: "ok, look, let me explain it this way - ok, here's a picture I just drew of your prophet, ok, now let's say your prophet........"
     
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    It still says to kill gays in the Bible - you have a terrible definition of "moderate"! Wow! Modern Secular Humanism, on the other hand is of course moderate.
     
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    Are you making the mistake of thinking that education and money offsets extremism? In the same way it does Judaism and Christianity?
     
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    They can take Steve Crowder's video, to demonstrate.
     
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    In the bible's defense those verses are in the old testament and Jesus cancelled that somehow. Christians have become a lot more moderate since their witch burning days and thankfully they don't read their bible that much.
     

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