What's Up With Australia

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Sorry but you still lead the world in total deaths
     
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    Ease up, Woogs was just trying to explain to another American how much worse things are there than in Australia. He/She gets it, unlike some who want to pretend that the US has done OK.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am glad that I’m retired. The thought of having to go to work , in these plague times is daunting.
     
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    The issue is not the deaths, although very tragic, but the survivors with their crippling disabilities. Strokes are quite common with this disease... and many of those survivors will be a huge burden on healthcare and welfare systems. I read somewhere that lung transplants have begun on covid survivors. Then there is the issue of reinfection which can and does happen.
     
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    I lied....the U.S. death rate per Covid19 positive and/or Case Fatality Rate equates to 4.2%.

    Approx. 20 nation’s CFR are lower than 4.2%, but according to Trump and his parrots, U.S. has the lowest CFR.
     
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    Trump's lies in this area have been especially extreme and it is beginning to come back on him. I have heard more than one person recently say that a lot of Trump's "prosperity" may have been a lie as well. Just as most of us who want one still can't get a Covid test, so most everyone has not seen any big increase in their paycheck either.
     
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    You could try to explain but you would find yourself at a loss for words if you did.
     
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    They are more afraid of Covid than they were of Osama bin Laden. :D
     
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    I see they released about 2500 of the prisoners in 8 of the Towers, but are keeping about 500 locked up in one of the towers.

     
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    I'm really upset and angry about this second lockdown, it's killing small & micro businesses like mine. I'm trying to get some revenue going & all I'm getting is "sorry we're closed, sorry we're closed" government support is not open ended and certainly not a long term solution, these things takes time and momentum to build. 15% of Small business will NEVER reopen again, I think it is higher than 15%. Those people in this thread who say not to complain obviously are not private sector

    Victoria coronavirus: 15 per cent of Melbourne businesses won’t survive lockdown
    https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...n/news-story/934ad13e74a84770044c2776096bb891
     
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    How is lockdown in Victoria impacting your revenue?
     
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    As long as you're not in Victoria, it's probably okay.
     
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    30% seems more likely. That third which ordinarily don't survive more than a few years due to lack of capital.

    The rest of the nation needs to pay attention to this.
     
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    you must be government employed to ask a question like this
     
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    No, but I'm not surprised that you can't or won't answer.
     
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    Well, @crank.....
     
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    Which part surprises you, the part where I don't want to share personal information on the internet or the part where I don't want to share personal information with you?

    I think government fat cats and CEO's on large pay packages all need to take a heavy pay cut... they are grossly underperforming
     
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    No, the part where you make a claim critical of a government you already didn't like but can't back it up in any way didn't surprise me at all. No matter, I wasn't expecting you to.

    I think people who make claims should be prepared to back them up in some way.
     
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    “Mathias Cormann resisting pay cut for MPs
    By Daniel McCulloch
    April 9, 2020
    Finance Minister Mathias Cormann is digging in against growing calls for federal politicians to take a pay cut during the coronavirus crisis.

    Senator Cormann has told the remuneration tribunal to institute a pay freeze but refuses to go further.

    “Right now politicians are probably working harder than they ever have,” he told ABC radio.

    “This is the most intense period in my working life that I am going through, and I think it’s the same for most if not all of my colleagues.”

    The federal parliament will meet on Wednesday to pass a $130 billion wage subsidy program designed to save six million jobs.“
    https://www.aap.com.au/minister-digs-in-against-political-pay-cut/

    “Senators and members receive an annual allowance by way of basic salary—$207,100 from 1 July 2018.[1]
    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia...entary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1819/ParlBaseSal2018
     
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    Apropos CEOs on big money. The unlamented ex Austpost CEO Ahmed Fatour, must have thought all his birthdays had come at once with his Austpost remuneration.
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    In its remuneration report released this morning, Australia Post confirmed Mr Fahour was paid a total $6.8 million in the 2017 financial year, sweetened by an additional $4 million in long-term incentives awarded from 2015 and 2016.Aug 24, 2017
    Organization: Australia Post
    Role: Chief executive officer
     
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    Not really relevant to my post....or this thread....but yes, he was ridiculously overpaid and those responsible for it should be held up to public ridicule and removed from any senior positions they still occupy. I note that his successor was paid a fraction of what he got, much more in line with comparable jobs internationally.
     
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    What you describe is the result of public policy decisions being made in an atmosphere of fear and anxiety.
     
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    The NSW Premier went to the courts to stop the BLM protests, Daniel Andrews did nothing, he is a weak Premier. The interests of everyone should have been prioritised over the left... Daniel Andrews panders to the left and it's not costing him anything...

    The problem I have with government salaries are in the fact that some of the Heads of Department earn more than the Prime Minister. Where it affects me is in the fees & taxes households are having to pay... councils are equally overpaid as are State Governments... we pay a fortune in car licenses, rates... and now the States want to put GST up while they sit on their big fat pay checks. I'm not saying just rip up their pay checks and I know the Government did do a review not all that long ago. But these pay checks are pushing up living expenses for the rest of us... it is important.

    How shutting down businesses affect me is because I'm a micro-business, I refer to myself as a bottom feeder, I have no problem referring to myself as such because it afforded me great flexibility in how and when I work. I used to feed off the work that bigger business can't do or don't want. (this is no longer a sustainable strategy for me as work have reduced for everyone)
    For example, when you close a restaurant, they don't buy ink for their printer anymore, they don't buy supplies, they don't buy stationery, they don't buy stock or when something breaks hire a refrigeration specialist, and electrician or a handyman to fix things...they don't promote or need design services, there are multiple other businesses that feed off this one business right down the toothpicks. Think of a small business as one of those old wind up cars, you wind and wind and wind then when the motor is running quickly jump in and drive... then it loses momentum and you're out there winding again... it's a constant push with results frequently delayed by weeks or months... momentum (the winding clearly your marketing efforts). It is most frustrating to wind and wind then being told you can't jump in and you have to watch it sit there until it dies...then start winding all over again.
     
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    NSW has a female leader. From a migrant family, and tough as boots.
     
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    So this is really just about your political and personal prejudices. Imagine my surprise.

    Though you will completely ignore this, the Chief health Officer has plainly stated that not only did the BLM protest not result in any rtanmission, it also didn't cause any behaviour change that led to more transmission. He knows more about this than everyone you know combined....not that it will make a difference.

    Its funny how many people who want to score a point on Andrews rush right past the actual mistakes he made and straight to BLM. Like I said, its all about personal & political prejudices rather than anythnig that is actually happening.

    Um, OK. Bit of a word salad there. Something about bottom feeders and old cars. Clear as mud. But you don't like Andrews. That was clear before anyone had ever heard of COVID.

    Anyway, have fun at the bottom of the pond.
     
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