Where's Trump's Nobel Peace Prize?

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    He produced the Great Recession. Worse thing since Hoover created the Great Depression.
     
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    So you as an individual have no respect for the Nobel Prize committee or Norway. Heart breaking.

    The fact is that the committee does not consist of only Norwegians but people from all over the world, and it is consided by the world at large perhaps the most prestigious any scientist, artist, politician, etc., can receive.

    You are dissing it because Obama won it: if Trump won it (which would never happen) you'd be singing a differed t tune.
     
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    You are quite wrong. But I do not put them on a pedestal. Guess why? They gave Obama the prize.
     
  5. Robert

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    Absolutely wrong. Will you show us the magic button you think Bush used? Propaganda may sound wonderful but please show how presidents can ruin the economy? Hoover did not create the Great Depression. The run on the banks happened due to what took place at a small Jewish ran bank in NY city and panic set in.
     
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    Thank you. I evaluated Reagan for what he did, not what Democrats said he did.
     
  7. Lesh

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    So trolling is your main goal?

    I'm SO surprised
     
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    You'll never read it .

    And for a book as popular and insightful as this to have NOTHING but negative reviews kinda makes it look like a sock Puppet mugging.

    Here's another
    .0 out of 5 starsNothing new
    ByPatrick Merrimanon June 6, 2012
    Format: Hardcover|Verified Purchase
    There is nothing new in this book. Anyone who has read anything on modern Russia will find this book to be a waste of both time and money. Gessen offers no new insight into Putin and uncovers no more evidence of any alleged crimes than what has already been published in several sources. In fact, this book is more like an English language translation of a Politkovskaya piece. Gessen is clearly anti-Putin, and loses a large degree of credibility as a result of her bias getting in the way of objective reporting. Reminds me of when Anne Applebaum wrote a piece blaming Putin when her wallet was stolen..

    Politkovskaya was a journalist who was assassinated in Putin's Russia. Most accounts blame Putin. Gessen does not. Kinda surprising if the book is as "conspiratorial" as your review claims.

    But not to worry. I never thought there was a chance you would read it. You'll wait for the ghost written autobiography of Putin and tout that as a great work.
     
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    Oh and citing Megyn Kelly? Really?

    THAT is your benchmark?

    Jesus dude. He's a murdering thug. His people assasinated a former Russian spy in a London hotel using a radioactive poison. That is FACT. A dissident foreign minister was recently beaten to death in his hotel room in D.C. Just last WEEK a former Russian spy and his wife were nerve gassed in London. That's just a few of the many who were killed or jailed by this Stalin wannabe. And it doesn't even get into what happened with Magnitsky or the poisoning of the Ukraine President.

    But hey...I'm not at all surprised that you are a fan of this criminal
     
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    You just can't grasp the timeline, can you? At the time that Barack Obama was (undeservedly) rewarded the Nobel Peace Peace prize, he hadn't done those things.The Nobel Committee members may have later regretted rewarding him the Prize, but the reward couldn't take into account events that had not yet happened and were not yet foreseen. Why do you have so much trouble understanding the basic facts of the historical timeline?
     
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    Exactly my point.

    Obama didn't do anything to deserve the fricking Nobel Peace Prize. Obama was only President for fricking 8 months when he was award the Nobel Peace Prize for God Sake!
     
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    If that's your point, why didn't you write that in the first place instead of dragging in all sorts of irrelevant facts. And, if you agree with me, why do you post the argumentative responses to what I write and make such bizarre claims only to later concede the point?
     
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    Now there are no pre-conditions to the meeting between Trump and Kim. For decades, the Kim regime has wanted bilateral talks with the U.S. For decades, the U.S. has insisted on multi-lateral talks involving South Korea, China, Japan, and possibly Russia. Also, before any talks take place, North Korea must agree to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

    All of a sudden, due to pressures on the domestic front -- legal problems with a porn star, a senior advisor without a portfolio, 34% turnover rate in the White House, tariff issues that threaten our relations with friends and cost a savvy economic advisor who simply quit, and, last but not least, the ever deepening investigation by the special prosecutor -- the politically naive Trump tossed decades of American foreign policy and agreed to meet with the North Korean dictator, virtually handing the dictator a diplomatic victory.

    If Trump gets his way, which many doubt will happen for the simple reason his way is dangerous, infantile, and just plain stupid, the guileless President will be elevating the status of North Korea to a world power. This comes at no cost to North Korea. North Korea is conceding nothing. We have not even heard from North Korea or Kim. This maniacal hoopla is all being generated by Trump.

    Oh sure, there is a pretense of pre-conditions, but that is simply a lie, a tactic Trump and the White Houses uses liberally.

    Trump's condition for meeting North Korean leader Kim Jong-un is that there will be no nuclear or missile testing, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said on Sunday.

    "There shouldn't be confusion," Mnuchin told NBC's Meet the Press when asked about White House press secretary Sarah Sanders' statement on Friday that there would be no meeting without concrete and verifiable actions by North Korea.

    "The President has made it clear that the conditions are that there's no nuclear testing and there's no missiles and those will be a condition through the meeting."

    Do we laugh or cry? In the first place there has been no nuclear testing or missile testing since November. Arguing that is a pre-condition is incomprehensible.

    In the second place, there is confusion. Trump marching into diplomatic oblivion undaunted by the complexity of the issues combined with Manuchin's lies is creating a great deal of confusion. President Trump will insist on “concrete, verifiable actions” from North Korea before holding a promised summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the White House said Friday. Press secretary Sarah Sanders repeated the insistence on “concrete, verifiable” steps several times, and asserted that the United States had given up no leverage in agreeing to hold the unprecedented meeting.

    Sanders said talks would only happen once the rogue nation takes "concrete and verifiable action" to demonstrate its commitment to denuclearization.

    Now who do we believe, Manuchin on Sunday or the White House on Friday? Is Trump wanting it both ways? There are severe pre-conditions and the United States had given up no leverage in agreeing to hold the unprecedented meeting. Or, Manuchin's make believe pre-conditions.

    In any case, Trump is making himself look like a buffoon ... again. Once again, he is making a serious miscalculation. Trump is assuming Americans are as stupid as he is.

    75% of the American electorate were smart enough not to vote for him. That leaves 25% who did.
     
  14. Mandelus

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    Funny ... every time you attack Trump, his fans come up with "but the evil Hillary" ... ridiculous!
    I never said that Hillary was the better choice ... but the fact that you Americans after the primaries only the choice between these two idiots leaves open, says a lot about the intelligence of the average voter ...
     
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    Actually the huge irony is that the Right's leadership tried giving democracy a chance, as in 'one human, one vote' whereas the Left's leadership simply went full bore Marxist/Fascist -- and yes I am aware that the two ideological movements historically did not see eye-to-eye -- and yet the results were identical for vast numbers of citizens on either side of the great political divide. A huge horde of Right of Center citizens were horrified that the People of their Party chose Donald Trump whereas a huge chuck of Left of Center citizens were horrified that their leftist RULERS chose Hillary Clinton even before they had their primary.

    I myself wanted Cruz or Rubio. But . . . so . . . it . . . goes.
     
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    Your society has been divided for at least 30 years or more and Trump has made the ditch a few yards deeper and wider. No, I'm not defending Hillary here again, she probably would have done it just like Trump!

    Only through this abuses and mutual insulting of righties and lefties each others in the US, I can in meanwhile only laugh ... better than any comedy show from a European point of view!
    Just as much as this desperate defending Trump, no matter what the idiot does and says ...
    How was it again with arming the the teachers after Parkland? He supposedly never said he said via Twitter etc. ... weird, but he has said proven! Maybe a hot contender for his Fake News Award ... and the winner is Donald Trump!
     
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    You actually don't know how? Not everybody who sends an army to defend our country is pro-war.

    Knowing about some historical events is not the same as knowing about history. To "know" implies understanding. That's obviously a flaw in your academic formation.

    As a matter of fact, the same is true for any area in human knowledge.
     
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    Reagan ended the Cold War and the Nobel organization hated him.

    No prize for Ronnie.
     
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