White Pride

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by leftlegmoderate, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    I haven't made a single disparaging remark towards anyone.

    Nice try though.

    Feel free to quote any that I may have made.

    I've no problem with skin color and I don't really care if people want to celebrate a national white pride day.

    I just think its irrelevant for the reasons I stated. You haven't explained to me how white is white. What shade would your cuttoff line be before someone is not allowed to partake in your festival?
     
  2. Jackster

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    Im proud to be white, why the hell shouldnt i be? Everyone else can be proud of their race but i cant? All races have achieved, all races have various things to be proud about (as they actively do), all races have stuffed up as well. I respect other races as i do my own, one thing i cant stand however is being called a racist because i do as ALL other races do.... be proud. My ancestors fought and died for many great causes, they also stuffed up on many issues, but over all i think they got it better than most or id chose to live somewhere else in the world that did it better.
     
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    I don't get why anyone would be proud to be white. There's no common struggle that white people have gone through that binds them together as a group. Now I can certainly see being proud of your heritage such as Italion, Greek, German or what not but white just seems a bit too broad.

    I mean if you want to be proud of white people more power to ya but I think its silly. Its like someone in Africa saying they are proud to be black. What's the point? African-americans have had a common struggle so that makes sense in this country and so have Native Americans and a few other ethnic groups.

    I suppose you could say your proud to be white because of starting this country but then again you had white people trying to stop you also, the Brits. I just don't see the connection someone has to being "white" rather then their heritage.
     
  4. garyd

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    I don't get why anyone would be proud of their (*)(*)(*)(*) skin color be it white black or yellow or puce. Whether you succeed in this life or not is a function of your willingness to work, with your intellectual capacity serving as a force multiplier. Your skin color doesn't even rate a consieration in that formulation.
     
  5. kreo

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    You can't, because unlike other races European-Americans do not have affirmative-actions rights. Once you get one you can be proud for yourself.
     
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    Is skin color an accomplishment?
     
  7. kreo

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    Yes, if skin color is NOT white. Pale skin is not an accomplishment at all. All other skin colors have special privileges recognized by the government, i.e. accomplishments.
     
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    Have you failed to get a job because your skin is the wrong color? That has NEVER happened to me or anyone in my family.
     
  9. kreo

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    LOL, you have never been even invited to the interview for that special job reserved for privileged.
     
  10. Brewskier

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    Now it all makes sense.
     
  11. Brewskier

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    Because anti-white progressives do dopey things like that to gain the approval of minorities. It's to show off how different they are from the average white person. It's a sign of submission. I bring this up because the same people who chastise a white person for being proud of their race will gladly support a black person being proud of their race. Just one of the many double standards progressives are known for.
     
  12. Albert Di Salvo

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    No Black man can be Irish. Only Gaels of the Blood and the Faith can be Irish.
     
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    Can you point us to any of these people? These hypocrites?
     
  14. Albert Di Salvo

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    What you are missing is that white americans of european descent intermarried over the course of two centuries and created a pan-european culture which was unique in all the world. White people are trying to hang on to that heritage.
     
  15. Brewskier

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    If whites need to be ashamed of their history because they kept slaves, then every other race should feel that same sense of shame, because they all had slaves. If whites need to be ashamed because of genocides that have occurred in the past, then every other race should be ashamed as well, because they have taken part in genocide as well. However, that is never the case. Whites, and only whites, are made to feel ashamed of their history and their culture. Some would say the Jewish dominance in the media is a big contributing factor on why this manufactured sense of shame is so pervasive and is allowed to go on in perpetuity without any challenge. Personally, I believe the left-wing in general is to blame for it. A proud white race would be a threat to their political hegemony.
     
  16. thediplomat2.0

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    I do not think it is wrong for anyone to be proud of their racial heritage. However, I do consider it short-sighted to acknowledge race as a legitimate social construct. Its history is riddled with subversion and distortion of the natural sciences and social sciences in the name of establishing a seemingly objective social hierarchy. As biology, psychology, anthropology, and sociology has moved away from this integration between the natural and social sciences and normative social construction, we are now well-aware that race as it is used is not an objective human classification. Yes, there is such a thing as race, but the natural and social sciences have come to a general consensus that the following qualities must exist for racial variation to be present:

    1. Significant genetic variation of a large group of people
    2. Significant phenotype variation of a large group of people
    3. Historically continuity of both factors

    The natural sciences nor the social sciences have proven that there is a sub-set of homo sapiens sapiens who fulfill all three of these criterion. As a result, the concept of race as humans construct it is nothing but an illusion.

    Race is not the only antiquated social construct. Ethnicity and culture are as well, with ethnicity being more out of date than culture. In that regard, I personally have pride in my nation, the Jewish nation, as well as my heritage/descent, which is truly continental European. I also have love for my country, the United States of America, and my nation's homeland, Israel. This provides one of many bases for my cultural framework. However, I do not identify myself in terms of race or even ethnicity.
     
  17. Brewskier

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    Haha, that's what you have to tell yourself? Hilarious. It could just be that people get tired of your trolling. Yeah, that seems far more likely.
     
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    Pride should be YOUR response to YOUR own virtues, not the alleged virtues of other men who happen to be of the same race.
     
  19. suedanim

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    You mean like white women? White women are the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action... You do know that right.

    As to "being made to be ashamed of being white:... I'd like to know the sources that are making whites be ashamed... Who are they?

    Now if you were talking about being made to be a ashamed about being a BIGOT, then I agree, there are some who will do that and rightly so. But, I figure the "being made" part does not make a bigot ashamed at all and instead just makes angry white men, more angry.

    There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, the histories of the nation or neighborhood, town ect of your peoples origin. That's what genealogy accomplishes and its lots of fun too. But to be proud of an intentionally racialized goal... "white heritage", well, there's really no such thing, unless you mix into that heritage the ethnicities of Jews, Turks, Africans... Neanderthals. None of us are PURE anything. Race is a false construct period.. unless you are dealing with people who believe in inferiority or privilege based on skin color, religion, ethnicity or nationality. THEN you are forced to try and reason with the unreasonable. Most of the time, that exercise is a waste of time.

    For purposes of general discussion, we all reach for the best descriptor..race, to explain crimes or social problems which have been based upon ethnic parameters, though its really incorrect to do so. This is why answering the question... is it wrong to be proud of your racial white heritage, sounds odd. Seriously, you should have a DNA profile done. You might find as much African, Mongolian or Jewish DNA as German, Celt or Anglo.

    Jmo!
     
  20. Brewskier

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    I never said "European" was a race. Strawman. If you define whites as Caucasians they are, indeed, a race of people. Are you going to start saying black people are not a race, now?

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    So I take it you will start telling groups of blacks and Hispanics that they are wrong for having racial pride? Oh, no you won't do that, will you? You'll celebrate along with them, most likely.
     
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    You'd never say this to a black person or any non-white person.
     
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    racial heritage is too broad for me...i'm not Italian, nor Portuguese, nor Greek, nor Polish (not that there's anything wrong with those, it's just not me-you guys aren't hurting anyone, let your freak flags fly). my ethnic heritage is a bit closer to home and dearer to my heart. as an Irish/German American, i made a lousy solider. i'd get drunk and invade Poland...and by Poland, i mean my battalion commander's daughter. ;)

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    Type Os rule the blood bank! :woot:
     
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    So a new metric is introduced - as long as you have a "common struggle", you're allowed to have racial pride. What a coincidence that you just-so-happen to be a part of a race that has had a "common struggle". Must feel good to give yourself an excuse to be proud of being black.

    More and more, whites are victimized by minorities, discriminated against in school and the workforce, and are targeted by the left and its media as the historical villain in just about every circumstance. Is that not a "common struggle"?

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    Yep, as long as you have the right skin color, you get extra money from the Government as a reward for all your hard work growing up being that skin color. Nobody on the anti-white side of this argument would complain.
     
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    They look like this. You'd know them as "progressives"

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    I personally have no problem with a Caucasian/White person having pride in who they are and what your people have accomplished, just as I have no problem with any other group of people taking pride in their heritage and accomplishments.
     

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