Who here receives government benefits

Sorry this is getting way off topic. Let me suffice it to say, history is history and can't be changed. But history is always traditionally written by the victor which in this case wasn't U.S. My hero in this whole affair was Muhammad Ali, a man. He stood on his convictions and accepted the consequence.

 

I believe that operative word should have been moral or contractual obligation. Legal is seldom right much less moral.

 

Real jobs, please explain this concept of real jobs because none you have described is real.

 

Build what?

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Policemen and firemen etc., aren't real jobs?

Tell that to the cop who comes to your aid next time you dial 911.

 

You never heard Obama say that or Warren ?

 

Nope not at all, they work for a fiction and act like a leech upon society, sucking life from those they have no obligation to protect. If they were to actually protect, they would be there before the fact and not after the fact to document the damage.

Once upon a time the people abandoned their self-responsibility and started to move into predominately wooden buildings grouped close together where fire was a real tragedy. A fire watch was instigated and that was the start of the policemen, powers stolen into what is today police or more rightfully "law enforcement".

Once upon a time, fire was a community affair attended to by the whole neighborhood, the fire departments were all volunteer. Then came local city government that discovered they could steal from the citizens, not for fighting fires but for control.

And when you dial 911, that is just so someone would discovered the remains because god knows everything would be over by the time they get there.

So please explain just how these are real jobs? The only real job in this whole affair is that constitutional officer called the sheriff that serves process from a court. He is paid by the fees not stolen money.

 

Got it. Police officers, firemen, and teachers, are "leeches". Do you count military personnell with the other "leeches" as well?

Sometimes I cannot believe I'm a liberal arguing with conservatives.

 

I have not seen anyone in here say anything of the sort. Shy why are you assuming thst is the case?

 

I have not seen anyone in here say anything of the sort. Shy why are you assuming thst is the case?

 

An assumption he doesn't want poorer people paying less % in taxes, but equal. It's what RWers mostly advocate for.

 

That is a pretty assinine assumption to make. I want everyone to pay significantly lower taxes. And I do not subscribe to the views of what you call the right wing.

 

I agree, I paid in for years and I am entitled to that check. It is not a government handout.

 

Yes I get SSI [$735/month], Food Stamps [$143/month], Medicaid and out of the cash $485 goes for housing, utilities and a fund for uncovered medical needs my Medicaid managed care provider won't pay for. Leaving the rest for clothes, additional food, transportation, saving something for a rainy day fund and other expenses which isn't much. I'm disabled and in need of these benefits so take them even though my Medicaid has issues it better than no insurance at all and would be hard to replace with another plan considering my medical need such as pain management.

 

I'm receiving government benefits for going to university.

 

If I may ask. And I know this is a bit personal. But in what way are you disabled?

 

Welcome to the forum, honored you would reply to me for your first post. Some folks can't tell the difference between earned and given.lol

 

It always got me that they taxed me while serving when it was taxes that paid my salary

 

Who cares what you subscribe to? I never ever posted to you. Before you posted to me. Don't like something, scroll on by.
And I don't care what you want to pay or you want others to pay.
The other poster wanted those barely getting by to pay more.

 

Cerebral Palsy
Type 2 Early Onset Diabetes with Complications
- Neuropathy
- Atrophy of Left Hand (claw like drooping)
Cognitive Disabilities (memory iffy, constant neural firing, confusion under stress my IQ is good at around 125 but I have trouble using it)
Leg Muscles Partial Atrophy from Childhood (Severe Pain when Walking, Uses Wheelchair)
Chronic Pain (Nerve Damage, Arthritis)

My typing speed is from 50wpm to 15wpm best speed, lets see, in a wheelchair and can't type near a professional level and pain prevents regular decent sleep plus other issues I'm obviously not going to work ever again.

 

Never signed on. Never had a tax break. Don't use many government service providers. Avoid them, whenever I can.
Don't work for them, don't accept money from them.
The Queen gets to keep her Shilling for a little longer.

I don't actually approve of the way they make their money. It's a problem for me. I call it extortion.
I don't wish to get involved with those sorts of people.

 

"Living off Uncle Sam." Ummm... no. I worked for my benefits. I sacrificed 4 years of my life. My self snd millions more more then earned our fair share. And your cimparison is absolutely ridiculous.

 

You are so right. If those people put money into the bank every week for their life and then start drawing it out each month for retirement does that mean the bank is giving them free money. This is what SS is basically a savings account the government manages, it is our money. If you never worked and paid in you can not collect SS.

 

That sucks. Im sorry to hear that.

I had a friend with Cerebral Palsy who was pretty much stuck in a chair and I'm not sure what all other problems she had from it. Nice lady. Sje trained service dogs for others with that disease. Unfortunatly the pain finally got too bad for her to handle and she took her own life a couple years ago.

I broke my back and both my knees got mangled when I was in the Corps. Both my knees were replaced and several vertebrae were replaced with cadaver bone in a titanium cage. The VA now has me rated at 70%

When my family and I were down and out after I seperated from the Corps and I was fighting with the VA the Special Operations Warrior Foundation and Hire Heros took care of me and helped us get on our feet.

By the time the VA got their (*)(*)(*)(*) together we already had our business going. They originally had me at 100% but when I didn't quit working they downgraded me to 70. I've been donating in its entirety to those two foundations since I started getting it.

 

Social Security (NOT so-called "disability"), along with Medicare, and military benefits are entitlements that are EARNED -- bought and paid for by an individual citizen with money out of his paycheck, and/or time taken out of one's life. .

Aside from EARNED benefits, I, too, have not taken one penny's worth of anything from any government, whether federal, state, county, or municipal, at all.
My relationship with the government has been purely on the basis of QUID PRO QUO, along with some differences I note below....

I do get the 'privilege' of paying for other people to get benefits that they haven't earned. Note: I don't mind supporting those who cannot support themselves because of documented, proven catastrophic illness, birth defects, or horrible, debilitating injuries. But parasites, bums, and leeches, with chosen, self-inflicted "issues"...? They can all go wallow in the ditch of life they have made for themselves. I didn't sign up to pay for their mistakes.

Oh, I've also get to pay by way of being forced through taxation to support a monstrous, bloated, socialistic public school system that I never had a child in, largely because I never had children.... "Equal protection under the law"? A FARCE.