Who Should Replace RBG?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by PatriotNews, Sep 19, 2020.

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who should President Trump pick to replace RBG?

Poll closed Nov 8, 2020.
  1. Amy Barrett

    16 vote(s)
    61.5%
  2. Britt Grant

    1 vote(s)
    3.8%
  3. Sarah Pitlyk

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Kate Todd

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Someone Else

    9 vote(s)
    34.6%
  1. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    Tell us about it. "If you like you plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

    Or how about this gem: Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.

    Which voters was he referring to when he was calling them stupid? Obviously, he wasn't referring to those voters who voted against Obama and Democrats, he was talking about democrat voters.

    And therein lies the truth about the Democrat Party, they know that their voting base are stupid suckers who will buy all the snake oil they can sell. They will lie to you face knowing that you are dumb enough to believe it and pass it on as truth.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Whereas Trump lies to everybody's face even when the truth is known and recorded.
     
  3. PatriotNews

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    I have challenged many people to name one lie. Supposedly there are tens of thousands of lies. I don't know what the count is now.

    No one can ever name a single lie when asked. Can you?
     
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    I am quite aware of the shenanigans the Democrats tried to pull in 2016, but I expect more from the GOP. Or are you suggesting they flip flop and change stances when its convenient as the Democrats do?

    Either the GOP was wrong not to confirm 2016, or they are wrong now, you can't have it both ways.

    As much as I believe RBG to be a remarkable person, she was wrong to play politics in '16 and she should have stepped down years ago. By holding on to the job to try to outlast the current admin. she was cheating the American people. We need functioning justices in our highest court, not warm bodies serving as place holders.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    As much as I believe McConnell to be a remarkable person, he was wrong to go beyond quoting Biden, the VP in 2016, or the specific situation in 2016.
    In 2016, we were in the last year of the corruption of the Senate by Reid with urging of Obama that had the intention of installing a permanent radical left judiciary. They stacked the District Courts and the Appeals Courts with judges who could never have gotten the previously required 60 votes to end debate. All the Democrats needed was a backstop, a SCOTUS majority, to turn the US into Venezuela. The suspicious death of Scalia was magical in that sense.
    You've heard these guys bragging that they intend to stack the Supreme Court, adding and filling seats so that the Constitution wouldn't have a chance.
    McConnell was fully justified in denying the Democrats the necessary ingredient to turn the US into a failed totalitarian state.
     
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    If you believe that McConnell was justified in '16, then it is hypocritical to belief he is correct now. We don't get to change the rules because the other team is about to score.
     
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    More like we Republicans were on offense (we had the ball) in'16 and ran out the clock. This time we're on offense and we're taking it in for a TD.
     
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    McConnell explained the situation incorrectly. It was more complicated as evidenced in Schumer's statement and hypocrisy:
    SchumerOnGarland.jpg
     
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    Hopefully. The MO of the GOP is to take the high road despite knowing the Democrats will take the low road every time. We'll see what happens.
     
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    I like the analogy, but I am not sure it fits. According to McConnell in '16 the clock had already expired after the end of the third qtr., and now he is wanting to go back to having a full game.

    We don't get to change the rules because we like what the outcome will be. Besides, the pendulum will eventually swing back, sooner than expected I fear.
     
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    If you can use Schumer to defend your position that should tell you something :)
     
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    Then the Senate should wait until after the election before they vote on the new Supreme Court nominees.
    There may be a new President and new Senate members after the election.
    We shouldn't rush thru a lifetime appointment.
     
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    No need to wait....there is plenty of time. The American people elected Trump, elected the GOP Senate, and expanded the GOP Senates majority in 2018....it's clear the people want the GOP Senate making this choice
     
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    I hope all American women who care about Rowe vs. Wade vote for Biden. Trump needs to be voted out for his attempt to stack the court.
     
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    Trump is trying to set up a Supreme Court that will repeal Rowe vs. Wade. He said as much when he was running for President in 2016.
    If American women don't fight against this, they are going to return to the days of back alley abortions.

    P.S. Back alley abortions for poor women, that is. Wealthy women will still be able to get safe, medically supervised abortions just like always.
     
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    That is a boogey man argument. Rowe vs. Wade is set precedent. Conservative justices tend to stand for precedent and originality regardless of their more liberal counterparts. But regardless of that even, the court is highly unlikely to overturn its own decision after so long. It just does not happen that often.

    Trump is just playing an evangelical tune on his magical flute.

    On that we agree
     
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    The important thing is that candidate Trump won in 2016 on the strength of the Supreme Court picks he disclosed. He is obligated to follow through on his promises. Anyway, Biden doesn't know where he is much less who a President Biden would nominate to the court.

    "Promises made. Promises kept."
     
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    Agree...but ALL American women should take stock of what overturning it and/or banning abortion means...LOSS OF BODILY AUTONOMY, a basic human right for ALL women.


    That said, I think even if they tried, RvW will stand firm...
     
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    "Hillary, your wish is not my command."
     
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    Let's take notes. Let them write Trump's game plan for how we treat libs after November.
     
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    Moriah said:
    Filling an actual vacancy is not stacking the court. Hyperbole much?
     
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    Okay, okay, I didn't want to but.......I'll do it, I am the smartest guy in America, never been wrong about anything, ever, seems like a logical choice. I accept the nomination.
    "I StarFox do..............to uphold........CONSTITUTION........"
     
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    The rules didn't change. Democrats have denied Republican presidents their picks before too. Two for Nixon, one for Reagan and one for Bush. If they want to go back to the old days, reach an agreement to put the 60 vote cloture back onto nominees. This crap is Harry Reid's fault. This crap is Democrats fault for rejecting Bork and for the partisan votes. Look at what Democrats did to Clarence Thomas! Look at what they did to Kavanaugh!

    Now go back and look how many votes Ginsburg got. Sotomayor and Kagan. Bi-partisan support.

    I don't give a **** if Democrats feelings are hurt.
     
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    No one far Left OR far Right.
     
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    It's not left or right.

    It's up or down.

    Upholding the law as it is intended, as it is written, or erroneous interpretations to enact laws that don't exist to the detriment of individual freedoms.
     

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