Why do criminals in other countries obey gun laws?

You post this as if it proves something.
That's funny!

 

No we couldn't. It is illegal for the military to operate on American soil as an arm of law enforcement.

 

Any law can be changed

 

Would you believe 9:1?

"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-strikes_us_561fafe2e4b028dd7ea6c4ff"

 

Pretty hard for your average felon to get a gun in Japan

 

Everyone should watch this before forming an opinion on guns and the gun culture in the United States.

 

What about yogurt culture in the U.S. ???

 

I’m pretty sure laws that prohibit felons from buying and owning firearms and associated requirements on sellers to check whether a customer is a felon before selling to them makes it more difficult for a felon to get a gun. Not impossible – nothing is impossible – but undeniably more difficult.

 

Your own border security is reporting that they are intercepting approximately thirty three firearms being smuggled into the nation of Australia each week. How many are slipping by that they are unaware of?

 

Pray tell what does "undeniably more difficult" amount to in round, real world terms that can be easily cited and referenced?

 

We already have laws that prohibit felons from owning and buying guns. If they worked we should be safe, right? Even if every good guy was able to identify a felon and not sell a gun to them, the felon would just find a straw purchaser, steal it or buy it from another crimnal, like they do in 80% or more of the times where they get another gun. A UBC wouldn't even qualify as slightly more difficult, and certainly not difficult enough to remove the desire for a gun from a felon.

 

One of the easiest ways to get a gun would be to go to a gun store and buy one. If there is no legal restriction on felons having firearms, they could do that, if there is they couldn’t.

No, if they work it is more difficult for a felon to get a gun, which is exactly the question I was responding to.

 

And yet, when a criminal wants a gun, he can get it, without issue.

 

Alternately, they have someone who -can- legally buy a gun go into the store and buy it for them.

 

I wouldn’t say “without issue”. It’s never going to be impossible for felons (which is slightly different to “criminals” BTW) from getting a gun but the question was whether gun laws make it more difficult for them and I don’t see how that wouldn’t be the case. They also have the issue of it being illegal for them to simply have a firearm so if they have to avoid getting caught with it at any point too.

No law is going to entirely prevent the actions they’re aimed at. They about reducing risks, establishing boundaries and providing a basis for punishing those who break them.

 

More difficult in this case is analogous to have to walk one more step to get to a destination; yes, it's a longer journey, but it in no way prevents that journey from being completed. If making it "more difficult" to get a gun doesn't actually prevent any criminal from getting a gun or dissuading them from trying to get a gun, then it really doesn't do anything for public safety, does it?

Since UBCs are nearly impossible to enforce, we can't punish anyone for breaking that law. Heck, we don't enforce the current Brady Act and that's with every failed attempt carefully documented with the felon's name, address, phone number and signature on a legal document. In 2010 the government found 13 out of 54,000 felony acts guilty, even with all that information. There's no way to even determine if a private transfer has occurred.

 

And the price they pay is a pressure cooker society that causes men to not want to have sex and a higher suicide rate than our combined murder/suicide rate. Japan is a much different society than ours. I'll take my chances.

 

Is someone arguing that gun bans aren't effective?

 

Yes, about 80% of violent crimes in the U.S. involve no weapons.

 

Wow, a gun control advocate that is wanting assassination of gun owners. No wonder you are anti-gun, you realize how unbalanced and violent you are and you can't imagine not using weapons on other people.

 

Given the level of gun-related crime in states (like, say, CA) with stringent gun control laws, they seem to have no problems getting them.

Laws do not exist to prevent actions, they exist to punish people that take those actions.
Laws cannot prevent anyone from doing anything.

 

No. I want criminals rounded up and thrown in jail, and if guns are oulawed, only outlaws will have guns as the NRA likes to point out.

 

Criminals are rounded up everyday. The problem is our justice system is a revolving door system that keeps releasing repeat offenders.
According to the Bureau of Justice, 71 % of violent offenders are recidivists.
Make violent gun crime a federal offense with lengthy sentences and the violent gun death stats will plummet. What will you then stand on to make your silly anti gun arguments?

 

My Drone proposal shuts your revolving door, so glad to see you supporting it.

 

I support justice system reform.