You mean like the common behaviour patterns shown by pro-lifers and their compulsion to control others .. yeah I recognise that .. however that has little to do with your assertion that " It allows you to do something that you know in your heart is wrong with the approval of your conscience." Please do tell how you KNOW " It allows you to do something that you know in your heart is wrong with the approval of your conscience.", or is it more likely you are just projecting what you WANT onto others. Please do tell how you KNOW that in someone's heart they know it is wrong? Please do tell how you KNOW that this so-called wrong is done with approval of their conscience? You can certainly suspect or even assume, you cannot however KNOW ... UNLESS you can read minds. So yes very, very basic stuff that you seem unable to grasp. I have no need to ridicule you, you do a far better job of ridiculing yourself than I could ever do.
and yet you see no issue with terminating the life of a disabled newborn .. does that make you not a normal human being? Oh great another mind reader, you have absolutely no idea at all what an individual person thinks .. BTW your heart has no influence on decisions made, it is merely an organ for pumping blood around the body. Yes they do, just as the fetuses rights end where the woman's begin. If you have to ask that question then you have no clue what you are talking about. correct, but as there are no babies involved in abortion your "point" is irrelevant. True, she can just get a perfectly legal abortion. She is choosing to not allow her body to be injured by a non-consented intrusion by another entity .. EXACTLY the same right that you have.
then stop all you pro-life buddies campaigning against comprehensive sex education and free contraception, you never know that might just reduce abortions (as the majority of studies show that it does)
] As it seems most Pro-Life rabid spittle comes from the lips of old white men...I'm guessing it is a close as they are likely to get to a vagina. In this way they can feel like they are getting revenge for being ignored.
Well, if it costs that much, and a kid absolutely deserves that, no question about it, and the woman is not prepared to take responsibility... if we take your logic at face value, the woman should be sterilized IMMEDIATELY if she is going to be reckless about her reproduction in any way at all. Like galant pointed out, it simply would not be fair to the child or everyone else. How do we know if the woman is going to be reckless? I say give her one abortion. No more. Not two, not three. If she gets an abortion, she has proved she could get a pregnancy she can't handle and it could happen again. Or maybe you think women should be required to get child insurance, and pay a premium based on what a private company thinks her risk of bringing a child into the world she can't take care of ? (she can shop around and try to find the best deal) If car drivers are required to buy car insurance... You know, there is a fine for not wearing a seatbelt. Maybe there should be a fine for being reckless. I just think we should take a little of this responsibility that just gets dumped entirely upon the fetus, and make the woman deal with some of it. (and maybe even the father)
At least Anders believes non disabled unborn children should have rights. You dont believe ANY unborn children should have righgts.
Actually I don't say anything about whether the unborn should have rights or not, what I do say is that it doesn't matter either way .. so yet again more misrepresentation from you.
Actually my wife and I are raising 5 of these beautiful children right now and we just found out last week that we may very well be blessed with another one of these "unwanted children" next spring, probably around May...We couldn't care less about a womans right to her body, her reproductive rights, or this nonsense about punishing her for her sexual choices, all we care about is saving the lives of these innocent children...We also couldn't care less if they are black, white, hispanic, handicapped or whatever, non of that matters to us, its simply about the children, period.
Actually you are dead wrong, at least here in CT. the vast majority of pro lifers that I deal with are women, mostly middle aged, when I attend national pro life events it tends to be about a 50/50 split of male and female.
But the leaders of the pro-life movement are mostly men affiliated with churches and religious organizations that just happen to believe a woman's place is in the home.
Put your BURKA back on Cady!!! Get yer' Butt back in the kitchen and make me a Tuna Fish Sandwich and cut off the crust...plus a beer!!! LOL!!! Ahhhh....you just gotta love REDNECK RELIGIOUS WHACKO'S!! AboveAlpha
Most Pro-Lifer's who are in Connecticut are actually Pro-Lifer's bussed in from Ohio. There are a LOT of Female Pro-Lifer's in the Mid-West.....but more are Men as a percentage. There are NOT a great number of Pro-Lifer's living in Connecticut. AboveAlpha
Well thats a cute little picture that some pro choicer created, don't know if its statistically accurate though. What I do know is statistically accurate is that: 94.8% of CEO's are men 89% of the house of representatives is men 93% of the senate are men 73% of college professors are men 54% of business' are owned by men while only 28 % are owned by women 100% of the presidents of the US have been men. So when it comes to women leadership, I'd say the the pro life movement is right on track or maybe even a little bit more female oriented than the rest of the country.
Bussed in from Ohio??? thats comical. My wife and I have been VERY active in the pro life community here in CT for many years and I have never, ever, heard even a whisper about anyone being "bussed in" from anywhere. I believe there have been a few rare events in Hartford where some people came in from neighboring states simply for an event but on a day to day, week to week basis, the pro lifers that are out there, on the sidewalks in front of the abortion mills saving lives are all locals, and are mostly women...But you are right, comparatively to other areas in the country there are not a lot of pro lifers here in CT.
So it IS true that "most Pro-Life rabid spittle comes from the lips of old white men," and their motive is control of women for religious purposes as explained by Charles Rulon: Yet, for the last several decades Catholic, Fundamentalist and Evangelical male leaders and their political allies/lackeys have attempted to turn back the clock and once again force women with unwanted pregnancies to stay pregnant and give birth against their will. Today, women’s bodies are once again in real danger of being involuntarily conscripted by a religiously conservative patriarchy to preserve the lives of tiny mindless senseless embryos and fetuses. Many of these anti-choice religious and political male leaders are driven by power, money, male domination desires, and/or moral zealotry. Many are also driven by an obsessive desire to prevent any further weakening of medieval religious dogmas devastated by hundreds of years of scientific and ethical advances. And many want to punish “loose” women and those women who are trying to “selfishly shirk their maternal duty.” Fetal idolatry is born These anti-choice men in power have largely disguised their real (but politically unacceptable) motivations. Instead, a strategy was born that would emotionally galvanize tens of millions of committed followers. This strategy elevated tiny human embryos and fetuses to a reverence, an exalted status, a God-planned sacredness that, according to Rev. John Swomley, Emeritus Professor of Social Ethics, St. Paul School of Theology, could only be described as fetal idolatry.[1] “Fetal idolatry [becomes] the major battleground issue for both the patriarchal and clerical control of women,” declares Swomley. http://www.philosophylounge.com/abortion-fetal-idolatry-part-1/
Great, lets put your idea into action. If you fight against poverty, hunger, or disease, then you must bear the full burden of your crusade. If you think everyone should have health insurance, then pull out your wallet and buy insurance for those people. If you think everyone should have a job, then you hire them.
And because a kid who dies from exposure or starvation has SUFFERED for her jezebel mother's SIN, as they should. The sins ot the mothers shall be visited unto the children, so says our merciful and all loving Je-HAY sus. John Calvin may love you guys, but you make me sick and my personal feeling is that the fact that Jesus hasn't come back and whipped you all down to Hell personally for so perverting his teaching is the best proof I know that he doesn't exist
Quoting charles rulon regarding abortion is the equivalent of quoting al sharpton regarding race relations, hes a die hard left wing, liberal, anti Christian, anti religious, pro abort that refers to an unborn baby as a parasite that has invaded the mothers womb without her expressed consent...LOL...what an ass hat...Now the truth is that I can assure you that my wife and I have had more personal real life experience talking to and dealing with women that are struggling with the decision of abortion in the past year, than this moron has had in his entire life...but we'll just put him up on a pedestal because he spews the trash that you want to hear.
The message isn't lessened by the messenger. It's still true. I have always thought Anti-Choicers have some sick fetus worship thing going since they do NOT care about actual living women and children. Why are you and your wife sticking our noses in other people's lives? don't you have one of your own?
