Why don't Pro-"lifers" Treat Abortion as Murder?

Chuz, please we already know the level of knowledge and integrity you bring to the debate, there is hardly a need to reinforce it.

 

Maybe if you took a little time and actually learned something factual about her, instead of your dishonest use of self serving talking points, you would have earned the right to comment about her in context instead of continuing to make a fool of yourself with these lies.

 

No, chuz, studying is an honest endeavor, lying as you did is a lot easier, but it leaves you with nothing.

You prefer the dishonest out of context words because you can use them in a self serving way. How noble ind intellectual of you.

You found her interesting enough to lie about her.

 

For the same reason you fake your your arguments, to score cheap points, in the hope that ignorance and deception will not be uncovered.

No you are doing a fine job yourself, both in defeating your arguments and discrediting yourself.

No need to divert, that and the use of lies and dishonest posts is your modus operandi.

Why is it relevant?

None, never had it. You want to change it bring compelling arguments not lies and fake pictures.

That fetuses are not persons. Not in so many words, but by mandates carried out since 1780.

Well it certainly will not work with the usual lies and fake pictures.

Not even integrity.

 

Of course not, just the lies the messenger brings to the argument

It is not the position of debater that determines the credibility but the arguments brought into the debate. You bring a lot of lies.

No need, try honesty and it comes naturally then.

 

Alright prometeus, we get the point...chuz made a mistake, and admitted to it...You on the other hand are acting like a pathetic child, what are you, like 12

 

No I conclude that a women has the right over her body (just as you do) and anything that effects that body can be removed.

and this is fine, you, as with anyone else have the right to their opinion, you, as do others, also have the right to try and get your opinion made into law .. people who disagree with you also have the right to try and stop you.

See this is where you go off the rails, what "body" is there at 5 weeks after an abortion, there isn't one.

One was the other not, so for months now I, and others, have to put up with the "you love abortion, it is your aphrodisiac" type of responses.

What is even funnier I was pro-life for much of my younger life.

 

Really this is the best you can come up with.

Do you know your history, how many Nazi's were prosecuted after the war for crimes that were committed when what they did was LEGAL under the government of their time (and before you showboat the usual response, this is not a defence of what they did)

Do you understand what precedence in law is.

Ok, So how do you go about proving "beyond reasonable doubt" that a woman has had an abortion?
and why just stick to imprisonment, why not the death penalty in the states that have it, after all according to you abortion is a premeditated murder, also isn't it law in the USA for the accomplice to share the same guilt and punishment as the actual accused. So even if you charge the doctor with murder (he/she is the one actually doing the abortion), then the accomplice (the woman) is as guilty as the doctor, is that not true?

Furthermore you are going to have to shut down every IVF clinic, they destroy embryos EVERY DAY, and according to your viewpoint that is murder.

Stem Cell research goes as well.

EVERY miscarriage would have to be investigated

Women who drink too much coffee, eat certain foods when pregnant could all find themselves in court should they miscarry.

Just where does the oppression of women end?

 

People who want to know the truth should study Sanger's words in context, not removed from context in order to distort as in your link.

 

and I think we can all agree that people (who are interested) should study Sanger in her own words, and not the edited versions you are promoting.

such as the following from your site;

and then actually words by Sanger (highlighted - the cherry picked items)

Notice how the cherry picked items change the complete meaning of the actual.

Again from the site you promote

and again from the actual text

so another quote taken out of context by cherry picking

I could go on, but I reckon you get the idea by now that cherry picked items can be made to say almost anything to fit a personal agenda.

 

Absolutely.

I think they should.

They should watch her video-taped interviews too.

[video=youtube;CrkrkSiFApA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrkrkSiFApA[/video]

 

I already agreed that she should be taken in context - to Grannie.

I also offered a link to her in an interview where she answers a lot of questions.

[video=youtube;CrkrkSiFApA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrkrkSiFApA[/video]

 

She DIED.

 

I wonder what she would think of the results of her efforts today.

 

She'd probably be horribly disappointed and upset, but whatever. Here's your reality check. Things change. Sanger was a pro-life, eugenacist, racist and now she is dead and along with her went plenty of racism (talk about making strides in history for minority rights), eugenics (only some white supremacists and other lunatics still cling to this nonsense), and so did the belief that women should be forced to endure pregnancy and childbirth, (aka pro-life albeit some crazies also still cling to this worldview that Sanger once held).

 

Why don't Pro-"lifers" Treat Abortion as Murder?

It would require that they treat all people involved in abortion as murderers or co-conspirators and that would shut the country down.

Was I too specific?

 

I don't know....why did you?

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And why resident "pro-lifers" try to QUICKLY change the subject away from prosecution of abortion in their dreamed of "pro-life Utopia America".