"Why gay marriage opponents have lost"

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    if you say so

    do you support a homosexual mayor targeting pastors?

    When ministers refuse to preside over a homosexual wedding, do you support threatening them with arrest?
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    But it's just a marriage license.

    Thanks for admitting you were wrong.
     
  3. martin76

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    No, I support that homosexuals have a legal union with the same rights as heterosexuals.
    If a minister don´t want to preside a Homo wedding... it´s his right.

    Do you support that if three siblings are living together can get married?
     
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    It´s easier... you said I am animus... like a totalitarian, using the marxist methods... If I don´t accept your dogma... I am against Homos....like the communist... or nazis...
     
  5. Liberalis

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    Do you even know what animus means? I did not call you "animus" because that isn't even correct usage of the term. Animus is a legal term, not a Marxist one. You are a total idiot if you think pointing out animus makes someone a totalitarian. How stupid.
     
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    Which is unconstitutional.
     
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    I am sorry to be the one to inform you but the ministers ARE being threatened with arrest for refusing to preside over a wedding between 2 people who choose the homosexual life.


    We have also seen the Christian owners of an event venue be forced to attend homosexual re-education because their religion does not condone homosexual sex

    We've seen businesses sued and shut down because they stand by their religious beliefs

    We've seen the govt swoop in and assess fines and financially injure Christians. All because they will not service a wedding for those engaged in the homosexual lifestyle.

    It's real

    the double standards and hypocrisy exists

    All over a sexual lifestyle choice. We are not talking about race or gender, it's a sexual lifestyle choice.
     
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    you wrote You have animus towards gay men and women, and try to rationalize in bizarre ways that no court will ever buy.

    Exactly your words. And yes, I know what´s animus... in Latin Animus and yes you are using a Marxist method, a totalitarian method. If you don´t believe in my dogmas of faith, in the sacred dogmas of the gay movement, then you have... how were your words? ah, yes... "You have animus towards gay...."...
    The only different between .... and Lenin is the latter used a red flag instead of a rainbow one... Cheers and bye!
     
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    Nobody is talking about a sexual lifestyle choice or gay sex.

    You're the only one obsessed with gay sex, and we both know why.
     
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    I admitted no such thing. Get an argument if you can.
     
  11. sec

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    please show us the medical test which is conducted to show that upon a birth, a human is homosexual
     
  12. Polydectes

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    You mean the one that states there is no difference between a marriage and a marriage, the one you confirmed? Why? My point was made you are just kicking against the pricks once again out of frustration.

    I don't need any other argument, my current one was affirmed by none other than you sweetheart.
     
  13. Polydectes

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    Show "us" that humans don't have sexuality but act based on...um...what ever the hell you think it is that causes a person to act.
     
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    I never once assert that how one has sex is anything more than a choice. So, I will continue to ask those who claim that they were "born homosexual" to provide the medical test that supports that statement.
     
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    It doesn't matter if it is or isn't. Lifestyle choices are protected by the Constitution unless you think that people are born Christians or Muslims.
     
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    Being a nudist is a lifestyle choice but if a person walks around naked then they will get arrested.

    So, spare me the false equivalency. Just because you choose a certain lifestyle, like engaging in gay sex, does not mean that you have the Constitutional right to do it whenever or where ever you feel. It also does not mean that everyone must be forced to accept it
     
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    That's right. I said you have animus. I did not say you are animus, or an animus. That doesn't make sense. And you do. Apparently in your mind, someone who points out the flaw in your logic is a totalitarian. Methinks you are an idiot.

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    Actually, people do have a constitutional right to have sex in the privacy of their own homes, gay or straight.
     
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    thank you, and I can walk around naked within my home as well. At least we understand lifestyle choices
     
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    What is your point, sec? Nobody is arguing for the right to have sex in public.
     
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    Scenario a) people choose a sexuality that often leads to minority stress, discrimination, other awful things

    Scenario b) sexual orientation is developed later in life through psychological abnormalities, except somehow queer people can be mentally healthy and typical with no assiciated traumaif lucky enough to live in a supportive environment

    Scenario c) sexual orientation is inborn

    I wonder what the most logical explanation is.
     
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    160.204. PRESUMPTION OF PATERNITY. (a) A man is
    presumed to be the father of a child if:
    (1) he is married to the mother of the child and the
    child is born during the marriage;

    Only applies in the case of a man and a woman. Only women become mothers and only men become fathers.
     
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    I don't claim I was born homosexual. I don't know howanybody would know that.

    I just claim I don't have a choice in who I am attracted to.

    Your choice to have sex with somebody is informed by other things.

    You aren't saying people aren't born homosexual, you are saying that sexual orientation doesn't exist. That people just do things based on choices that are informed by nothing. You are basically writing off the entirety of human behavior.

    Why would somebody choose to have sex with the same sex? Why don't you?

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    so what?
     
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    Actually, we can't have ANY kind of sex whenever or where ever we feel so why are you singling out gays? Also, you are no more being forced to accept gays than you are forced to accept African Americans.
     
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    People are being forced to tolerate gay people.

    They never had any choice to begin with.
     
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    I can assure you that people know that I am not white

    How does one know with whom you choose to have sex?

    Do you know how ridiculous and insulting it is to keep hearing the false equivalency between race and how you choose to have sex
     

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