Why is rape a crime?

yet when a girl did that to me, you claimed I wasn't dateraped....

 

I think you definitely have too much time on your hands.

 

Nope did not claim that re-read my response

 

As a retired Conservative and senior citizen, I have plenty of time to honor our senior citizens, rather than to euthanize them as would be the want of the liberals. As a Conservative I not only honor our veterans, I am one, and I give to the wounded warrior cause, unlike the liberals who continue to bash our veterans, bash our military missions and defund monies for our military including scaling back on our nuclear program. Think its time you revise your signature statement?

 

I trust we all honour your service to your country. many of my relatives died in war
against the Japanese. American assistance-I know you were not there but would have been- to liberate our country from the aggressors, is not forgotten, never will be.

Regarding defense spending, if you compare what the USA spends (with 6 percent of the world population) compared to the rest of the world, I wonder if you have thought about how much is enough?

(I know that veterans do not always get what is due them, a national disgrace)

Now, returning with you to the topic, which was not defense spending....

We all agree that some charges of rape have simply been false, a complete lie.
Some have cried rape when there was consent, followed by an afterthought.

Sometimes underage girls have lied about their age, and gotten people into a statutory rape charge they didnt deserve.

We also get girls attacked, beaten, raped then tortured and murdered.

So for sure not all women are innocent, nor, please note, are all rape cases the same any more than all murder charges are. you can be charged for being the get away driver, who didnt even know till later the clerk had been shot.

Or you can be charged for premeditated murder involving extreme cruelty.

Rapes are like that too, and any failure on the part of courts to make suitable distinctions is a failure of the courts that should be addressed.

Without going into details, I was in the hospital for two weeks and will never fully recover from what happened to me. The charge of attempted murder was plea bargained away.

Is there really in your mind a serious question about why something like that is a crime?

 

Once the Republican party stops spitting on our Senior Citizens and Veterans I'll be more then happy to remove it; until then, it stays.

 

One thing that is discussion has failed to mention is that a majority of rapes are performed while the victim is either intoxicated or under the influence of a drug (such as date rape drugs). For this reason, women should be concerned under the circumstances of being raped. The fact that they did not give consent (at least under conscious pilot), gives them the right to "complain" about being raped. Appropriate sex comes down to the legal matter of consent. Without consent, any sexual act is considered rape. It only makes sense for women to be upset when raped because they do want to be considered equal to men, and they therefore want the respect of giving consent prior to a sexual encounter.

 

SPITS? Interesting terminology.

 

Splutters?

 

Thanks, that made a whole lot of difference.

 

getting yourself drunk, having sex, then withdrawing consent after the fact should NOT be rape.


But, even though you group EVERYTHING under the daterape umbrella, I will differentiate again, since the inevitable accusation that I support daterape will be tossed at me again if I don't, by intellectually dishonest people....

if a guy drugs her without her consent.... date-rape
if a guy sees a girl passed out and has sex with her..... date-rape
even if a guy asks for sex, and she submits "peacefully" in order to prevent a forcible rape...... date-rape.

BUT

if a girl gets herself wasted, chooses to have sex, regrets it in the morning and then claims alcohol date-rape..... tough shiz..... make better choices about drinking to the point of out of control.

 

For what its worth, i think the proposition that either party "spits" or splutters on anyone is stupid and wrong.

Now if you can return from that diversion to your own op, i did ask you a question relevant to the thread.

Without going into details, I was in the hospital for two weeks and will never fully recover from what happened to me. The charge of attempted murder was plea bargained away.

Is there really in your mind a serious question about why something like that is a crime?

 

You didn't say exactly what happened to you, so I have no idea whether it was a crime or not. I'm too lazy to find the post you're talking about, so please update me with your facts.

 

I think this is the post taikoo is talking about.

I am a firm beleiver that ALL women should own a firearm (pistol) To carry (Except some of the more crazy ones o.0) And all men should carry a blade. Because women to men (Strength and aggressive) men take the battle and a nice little .38 could settle that. But I also think for a crime such as this that is proven shouldnt get less then death. Because forever you are takeing from someone who will never feel "complete" to themselves. I have a friend through the misses who was raped and she is a nice girl, But you can tell how scared of people she is. I got my first hug from her after 7 years and after i married my misses. As far as anyone on the streets concerend she's family and they will bleed before her or my misses does.

 

You ignored it one page back, so you may as well now too.

 

I purchased a smith and wesson "ladysmith" and got a concealed carry permit. But I left it in the US, gave it to a friend.

For a while i was thinking up worse things than that. Now i kind of feel sorry for them. Teenagers, never got in trouble before, their lives and their families lives are ruined.

PTSD, hypervigilence, fear of men, its quite a list.

Good for you. A man who wont do anything it takes to protect a woman isnt much of a man.

 

I believe chics should be able to claim they want to try to be girls and friends, at the same time. I usually fall for that.

 

drop the "chic' bit and we can consider it!

 

I dont know I know "Chicks" who are girls and friends who I would trust and trust me, So either your doing it wronge or your trying to make friends with girls who wouldnt have your well being in mind.

 

It usually works better for me when I have more money.

 

too bad, I probably have more money

 

Now you know why I insist only the women that are doing me the most have dibs on any serious relationships in modern times.

 

I wish I had money Work sucks

 

I always enjoy my quality time with girl friends more, when I have a petty cash fund for that purpose.

 

I always thought that work sucked. Someone here mentioned PTSD for being one of the symptoms a woman who was raped might develop.

My contention is that a woman who did not have her life threatened during the rape act, that the man responsible for the rape should not get anywhere close to a life sentence. I would think a fair sentence for the rapist (depending on the circumstances of course) should not be any more than 10 years. For a guy that threatens the woman's life during the rape--he should do life. Now back to this PTSD:

I agree with those who say that many rape victims do suffer from PTSD, and as such, there should be some sort of financial help and free psychological/psychiatric counseling available for her through to the rest of her life. You see, as a combat veteran I suffered and still suffer from PTSD symptoms, but being a veteran I got compensated at the 100% rate including any and all medicines/therapies/counseling etc--so I was able to retire at a very early age. The major reason I made this post was to bring attention to the severity level of these rapes and judge each one on its own merit or demerit. So rather than advocating for the life sentence of these rapists, I would think the greater cause and concern would be to advocate for free resources for the rape victim--be it free counseling, free medicines, free therapy, and perhaps some kind of free financial compensation. I would much rather see tax monies going to help rape victims then to see it go to some fat welfare slob who turns in their foodstamps to get ice cream and ho-hos. Once again there is a caveat.....I still believe many of these women get to enjoy the rape, and don't come anywhere near developing any post traumatic disorders.

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I always thought that work sucked. Someone here mentioned PTSD for being one of the symptoms a woman who was raped might develop.

My contention is that a woman who did not have her life threatened during the rape act, that the man responsible for the rape should not get anywhere close to a life sentence. I would think a fair sentence for the rapist (depending on the circumstances of course) should not be any more than 10 years. For a guy that threatens the woman's life during the rape--he should do life. Now back to this PTSD:

I agree with those who say that many rape victims do suffer from PTSD, and as such, there should be some sort of financial help and free psychological/psychiatric counseling available for her through to the rest of her life. You see, as a combat veteran I suffered and still suffer from PTSD symptoms, but being a veteran I got compensated at the 100% rate including any and all medicines/therapies/counseling etc--so I was able to retire at a very early age. The major reason I made this post was to bring attention to the severity level of these rapes and judge each one on its own merit or demerit. So rather than advocating for the life sentence of these rapists, I would think the greater cause and concern would be to advocate for free resources for the rape victim--be it free counseling, free medicines, free therapy, and perhaps some kind of free financial compensation. I would much rather see tax monies going to help rape victims then to see it go to some fat welfare slob who turns in their foodstamps to get ice cream and ho-hos. Once again there is a caveat.....I still believe many of these women get to enjoy the rape, and don't come anywhere near developing any post traumatic disorders.