Why libertarianism isn't conservatism

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  1. cabse5

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    No they aren't. You're misinformed.
     
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    OK maybe you have a definition of libertarian that I'm unfamiliar with.
     
  3. aCultureWarrior

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    If you'd been paying attention Mike you'd know that the definition of libertarianism has been shown numerous times in this now 23 page thread:

    PREAMBLE
    As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty: a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and are not forced to sacrifice their values for the benefit of others.

    We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.

    Consequently, we defend each person’s right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.

    In the following pages we set forth our basic principles and enumerate various policy stands derived from those principles....
    Platform | Libertarian Party (lp.org)

    Now if you boyz have some minor differences of opinions as libertarians, I'm sure that I can help you work out those differences of opinion out so that you continue to work together to hate your fellow man and help destroy lives and a once great nation.
     
  4. Lil Mike

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    Wow, you're reading comprehension is not really there is it?
     
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    No fair, you have to answer my (two) questions before I answer yours.
     
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    Here's a 1 hour video shot in Seattle WA, showing the results of years of libertarianism/liberalism in action. You don't have to watch the whole video to know that libertarian ideology and the action that goes with that ideology destroys individuals, cities and nations. Viewers that aren't familiar with Seattle should know that it's heavily infested with homosexuals and transgenders, hence the reason I call it "Sodomy and Gonorrhea North" and that drug addiction is just part of the moral decay that has infested the City of Seattle and the rest of this once great nation.

     
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    As a "conservative," "your opinion" of marijuana is parroted from big government liars who use said lies to grow the government and take away freedom, and enrich and empower lawyers and criminals.

    You are emblematic of the problems of those who self ID as conservative....

    You are not conservative

    You cannot define the word conservative.....

    Maybe you should stop self IDing as one....
     
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    Given your inability to understand a single post of mine in this thread, it seems rather pointless, so I can do without.
     
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    Or I'll ask Jews why they do not believe in Jesus, since it was their ancestors who observed Jesus.

    Jews observed Jesus

    You parrot a book
     
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    i.e. "Drug Enforcement Administration evil!"

    So tell me: If I were an AIDS infected-cross dressing homosexual drug addict, would I fit into your definition of conservative then?

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    Is your 'gay' bible (the Queen James Bible) in pdf form or do I need to find a pornographic bookstore to buy a copy, as I'd like to see what it has to say about how God really does embrace homosexuality.
     
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    I noticed that you and your fellow "I am NOT a libertarian! libertarians" didn't want to touch the "Seattle is Dying" video with the proverbial 20 foot pole (it's usually 10 feet, but libertarians want to distance themselves that much further when it's shown in video the destruction their policies create).

    Any thoughts on the video? (Let's see if he answers that one simple question).
     
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    The reason why marijuana became illegal is because the head of Prohibition knew when Prohibition was going to be repealed, he was going to lose his taxpayer funded job and his taxpayer funded support staff and office and building and media coverage. So he lied. He cooked up the phony movie "reefer madness" on the taxpayer's prohibition spending to install fear into the "minds" of parroting morons like yourself, and it worked. Reefer became illegal, and morons like you are still scared of it.

    In fact, you appear to be cheering on the failed "drug war" as if somehow it is doing something good. It is not. It is not stopping any drug use or abuse. It funnels money out of America into the hands of organized crime, many of which are communists south of the border. It packs our prisons, and we pay for it. What good has it done?

    How could legalizing possibly be worse?

    Legalizing at least

    Stops money flowing out of the us to criminals
    Creates many us jobs
    Increase tax revenue without tax hike
    Stops paying lawyers and other leeches
    Empowers the individual to be accountable for personal responsibility (which is actually CONSERVATIVE)


    As for those addicted to really dangerous stuff like opium, your hero W did most of that...

    The "success" of the "drug war" = everyone hooked on legal taxpayer funded opium pills
     
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    What is truly funny about a parrot is that a parrot insists everyone else must be a parrot too....

    Thinking - not possible, only parroting....


    Jews observed Jesus. Jews say Jesus was a total fraud, a liar, a thief, someone who bilked 5k idiots of "everything" and spent it on wine and the brothel.....

    Why do you think you know more about Jesus than Jews??


    You do not. You are a beaked birdbrain moron who parrots a book that says stars are the same size as fig leaves....
     
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    I'll take a bow...

    I have both the radical homos and the self proclaimed sub human hating on me....


    My position....

    Just keep homos away from kids, because homos molest kids and create more homos when they do, and they know it, which is why they fought like hell to keep molesting Boy Scouts.....
     
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    The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA evil!) deals with drug addicts and drug pushers for a living, so they know the harm that your precious heroin, LSD, meth (ecstasy) etc. and marijuana do to individuals. They know that they're highly addictive drugs, with no current medical use in the US (hence the Schedule A label), In fact, marijuana is the most abused mind altering drug in the US.
    Marijuana and Cannabis: Effects, Uses and Legalization - Drugs.com

    On a related note: when dealing with libertarians, one must ALWAYS remember that they HATE their fellow man and want to see them destroyed. I have my theory that childhood abuse is a result of that HATRED, and that they want others to share the misery that is a big part of their lives. Perhaps there has been a study on that, if not, there should be.

    The libertarian mindset of "It's MY body and I can do with it as I please!" is current mindset in the US and has been for decades. Abortion, homosexuality, recreational drug use and pornography running rampant are just some examples of that mindset.

    Regarding the war on drugs: Just because a war isn't fought correctly doesn't mean that it shouldn't be fought. If drug pushers like Ron Paul and others were put in prison, and if it could be shown that their actions caused the death of innocents and hence they paid the ultimate penalty for it, could you imagine how that would set back libertarian ideology and their promotion of recreational drug use?

    Education is the key, but without civil government punishing evil people like you, Ron Paul and those that push the libertarian culture of death, those who stand for decency aren't using all of the ammunition available to them to win the war on drugs.
     
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    You're not going to be very popular with your fellow libertarians by saying that homosexuals are child molesters (I just showed in another thread that homosexual activists founded the North American Man Boy Love Association, the Pedophile Information Exchange in the UK, and were behind legalizing child pornography in Sweden several decades ago (them homosexuals, they likez em young).

    Regarding "radical homosexuals": What's the libertarian definition of a "non radical homosexual"?
     
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    "They know"

    You do realize the "Reefer Madness" movie has been completely discredited.... or do you.

    "They know" is the signature BAWK of the parrot, because the parrot

    NEVER KNOWS ANYTHING
     
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    There are many many morons and liars who masquerade as "conservatives" "liberals" and "libertarians" who cannot define any of those terms. You are one.

    Libertarians treasure truth. Those claiming homos do not molest kids are liars, and hence not one bit libertarian. A libertarian wants the state to protect the innocent. A person at home smoking a bong is innocent. A homo molesting a kid is not.

    A "non radical homo" is just that. Andrew Sullivan coined the term "fascist gays" two decades ago.

    Once upon a time there were Log Cabin Republicans who supported small and limited government, and hence were vastly more conservative than you ever will be....
     
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    aCultureWarrior said:
    You're not going to be very popular with your fellow libertarians by saying that homosexuals are child molesters (I just showed in another thread that homosexual activists founded the North American Man Boy Love Association, the Pedophile Information Exchange in the UK, and were behind legalizing child pornography in Sweden several decades ago (them homosexuals, they likez em young).

    Regarding "radical homosexuals": What's the libertarian definition of a "non radical homosexual"?

    Would you share your childhood story Aaron, as others need to hear it. (I literally cried when Aaron told his story in another forum, as no child should be subjected to such depravity).

    I'll guarantee you that those so-called "conservative homosexuals" were on the front lines when homosexuality was illegal and when things like "homosexual rights" were unheard of. I'll also guarantee you that these so-called "conservative homosexuals" would be back on the front lines if those so-called "rights" were in jeopardy of being taken away.
     
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    You say "drug pushers" like Ron Paul should be in jail. Do you mean that supporting legalization should be criminalized, a thought crime?

    What about W and the post 1998 "republicans" who socialized senior drugs and hence flooded high schools with opium pills?

    Ron Paul tried to stop W from doing that.... That's my memory.

    The real truth of the matter is that the US was far better off with no government substance laws. People were accountable. The more government got involved, we went from booze, pot, coke, and opium to LSD, crack, X, meth, OxyContin, and a long list of other addictive legal pills... Funded by the taxpayer, pushed by conflicted Doctors who get kickbacks...

    Your position is that marijuana is worse than OxyContin because a "Doctor" prescribed it and W billed the taxpayer for it, right?


    Lol!!!


    Sub humans....
     
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    The log cabins were for small and limited government, low taxes, strong defense, robust enforcement of basic laws, right to privacy, and were not constantly pushing for war in the Middle East to enable Jesus to float down from the clouds....

    So, yeah, they qualified as "conservative homos." They were fine with the Bill Clinton term "gay unions" as opposed to marriage, because WORDS HAVE MEANING......

    The radical gays SPAZZ at the term gay Union. They demand marriage means the dictionary gets changed...
     
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    I thought that maybe the drug pusher could be arrested and imprisoned under criminal conspiracy laws,
    What is Criminal Conspiracy? - Federal Lawyer (federal-lawyer.com)

    but as seen here, he's proud that he wants to destroy lives and wants to do it through legislation.



    I think a straightjacket and a mental institution would be more suitable for Ron Paul

    Thanks for pointing out that even Republicans are socialists in this day and age. Your fellow rainbow flag waver Donald Trump is no different.

    I'm sure that Ron Paul wanted recreational drug pushing left up to the private sector.

    Here's your opportunity to comment on the video "Seattle is Dying", as I noticed that libertarians posting in this thread avoided it like they do a Christian church.

    Government got involved because libertarian ideology of "It's MY body and I can do with it as I please!" took over America's mindset and destruction followed.. Romans 13.

    Try and focus...focussssss. Dr.'s prescribe medicine for patients that have physical and psychological ailments, "self medicating" by using recreational drugs is not the same thing.
     
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    But homosexuality creates big government. Disease, substance abuse, domestic abuse, murder (usually by other homosexuals), suicide, etc. There's nothing conservative about buggery.
     
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    Lol

    You are a fascist.

    You do not think anyone can freely debate what a total across the board failure your totally anti-conservative drug war has been. You want to criminalize free speech when it tells you the truth to your face....

    Insanity is sometimes defined as re-doubling your efforts while losing sight of your goals. You fully qualify.

    You supported W. You love W. You are a complete moron who still believes the official version of 911. You think every drug prescription is OK, and smoking a bong after work is not. No doctors are corrupt according to you. And you cannot bring yourself to criticize W, because you worship W, the WORST TRAITOR in US history.


    You are not a conservative, not a patriotic American. You are a sub human fascist parrot of lies...
     

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