Why should white people be blamed for African American's collective social status?

That is exactly backwards. Politicians are MOST susceptible to control by the rich and corporations when they're new. The only way they can raise enough funds to run for office as a newbie is by selling their souls left and right to any potential donor that comes along. And, to make matters worse, term limits also reduce the portion of the time they're in office when they're accountable to the people. For example, if you limit them to two terms, that means that half the time they're in office, they have no reason to even care what the voters think of them at all.

You haven't explained how you think that works. How do they force us to vote for corrupt people? What happens when we elect a non-corrupt person?

The whole blame-the-politicians thing is just a cop out. It's an excuse to absolve ourselves for our failures. We elect these people. We pick them. Out of everybody in the country, these are the people we chose to be out leaders. If they aren't good choices, that is because we picked wrong.

 

No, I think you are wrong. When they first start out, they are not as corrupt. A former politician (I can't find the link right now) has said as much. He said the longer a politician is in office, the more apt they are to corruption. IOW, they become greedy when they may not have started off that way.

They don't "force" us. They lie and cheat. I think that much is obvious. They ALL make campaign promises that either, they know they cannot keep, or that they have no intention of keeping.

Why do you want to blame the voters? Politicians lie to us, constantly. Aren't you tired of that?

 

See, to me, the corruption is when they do what big donors want to get big campaign donations, rather than taking bribes or something. I'd buy that they're more likely to take bribes after they've been there a while, but IMO, that's very rare. On the other hand, they're much more likely to do things for big donors when they're new because that's when they're most desperate for campaign donations.

I actually don't think that is all that true. I mean, obviously there are limits to their power. When they say "I will stop polluters" or "I will protect unborn fetuses" or whatnot, you should interpret that as them saying that they'll try to push policy in that direction, not that they'll actually manage to accomplish the goal.

But, with that caveat, I actually think most politicians do generally pursue something pretty close to the platform they campaign on. I think part of the problem is that voters don't actually pay very close attention to what they campaign on. For example, a Republican might run on "rewarding job creators" and "freeing private enterprise from burdensome regulations," and then when it turns out that after he gets elected, he just panders to the rich and big business, and people feel like they were lied to... But that is exactly what "rewarding job creators" and "freeing private enterprise from burdensome regulations" means- pandering to the rich and big business. What else would it mean? That's exactly what the voters in that scenario voted for- a politician who promised to pander to the rich and big business, and it is exactly what they got. So we can't really blame the politician in that situation. They're actually doing exactly what the voters elected them to do.

Because it's just a cop out to blame the politicians we pick. Blaming the politicians is kind of like going to a hat store, picking out the hat you like, then deciding you don't like it later and blaming the hat.

 

The politician and voter relationship is symbiotic, they are both to blame as both create the other. Lying politicians exist cause stupid voters let them get away with it, stupid voters exist cause politicians lie.


As for whites being blamed for black issues, nope, not our fault.

 

Well, in some cases, people actually will sometimes vote for the corrupt politician. Like "Buddy" Cianci, former mayor of Providence, RI.

http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/why-do-we-elect-corrupt-politicians-voting-midterms-politics-election-buddy-cianci-94973

But there are a lot of instances when politicians do lie and cheat.

 

back to the topic.

white people who are racists are to be blamed for troubles of African Americans, and European whites are to be blamed for ruining and exploiting Africa. although it is done by politicians and shareholders of corporations, but many state departments participate in discrimination (police, judges, prosecutors), media owned by riches too. so, the aim of racism is economic exploitation or better said slavery, therefore Africans are illegal in Europe, politicans made frame for riches to exploit people without to give them salary if they want so. African in Europe cannot call police if he is beaten, exploited, etc, he will be deported. it is so in 21 century, Africans are still exploited, just slavery is officially abolished on the paper but there is still hidden slavery (they call it officially: human trafficking).

 

And black people are victims of human trafficking? Sorry, the biggest "victims" of slavery nowadays would be women (of any and all colors) and children (of any and all colors), and I'm quite sure that is the way it has always been.

 

Here is decent and honest 'perspective' on the matter:

[video=youtube;EXwGjvGnW3c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwGjvGnW3c[/video]

 

did you know that there are black women?

 

WTH do you think "of any and all colors" means?

 

he said blacks have a lot of prejudice against them, you said, no actually women do. i said, did you know that women are black too.

 

No, I didn't say that. I was referring to his comment about human trafficking,and I said that ALL women are at risk, regardless of their color.