Why was yet ANOTHER bail set for Waukesha killer?

I'm sure no one saw the man commit the crime and no one saw the man pulled from the vehicle...

 

Did they really pull the guy from a vehicle? I thought the news said that he was standing on someone's porch when he was busted.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/new...ciMOuYts0dmHOF-EFI2ekR9DrnSJ7TyEaApngEALw_wcB

 

The Mob of yesteryear did not have the benefit of pert near everyone carrying around high-definition video cameras with them everywhere they go. Yes, legally this guy is innocent until proven guilty. Then again, so are many thousands of others who have been held without bail for various crimes across the USA over the last Century, if not longer. But I've seen the video. I've seen his 52-page rap sheet, which includes about 8 or 10 previous convictions for jumping bail. He can and should get a fair trial, but sorry... the guy is as guilty as Ted Bundy, except it's going to be a lot easier to prove. Not to mention the crimes he was already out on bail for, but should not have been, ought to be enough for at least 25-to-life to begin with.

This guy is a posterchild of "how is a person with that many felony convictions even out on the street in the first damn place??".

 

So obviously the police were called on him so it stands to reason someone watched him exit the vehicle.

 

Do you or do you not understand that you can't just let mass murderers go free? What does it have to do with slavery? It only has to do with sanity.

 

Read and comprehend the Wisconsin State constitution Declaration of Rights = https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_Wisconsin_Constitution

Please cite the section in the Wisconsin State constitution that states that accused mass murderers can not be released before they are convicted.

If and when he is convicted you can ask the State to sell him to you as a slave. That is perfectly legal.

 

Right now that is speculation and it hasn't been proven in court.

 

There is a push in California to dump the control freaks' Three Strikes law.

Panel recommends ending California’s ‘three strikes’ law and life-without-parole sentences
"California’s groundbreaking “three strikes” law and the state’s life-without-parole sentences for thousands of convicted murderers have done little for public safety while driving up the prison population — particularly people of color — as well as taxpayer costs, according to a panel established to review state criminal laws.

In a year-end report, the Committee on Revision of the Penal Code recommends repealing, or at least substantially limiting, the three-strikes law that voters approved in 1994, which required sentences of 25 years to life for anyone convicted of a third felony after two serious or violent felonies. The law doubled prison terms for “second-strikers,” those with a past serious or violent felony who were convicted of any new felony.

The committee also proposed making the more than 5,000 current life-without-parole inmates eligible for parole consideration after 25 years in prison, and allowing other convicted felons to receive parole consideration after completing the sentence for their most recent crime, without additions for past convictions or gang membership. That would expand parole eligibility under a 2016 ballot measure, Proposition 57, which applied only to inmates sentenced for nonviolent felonies."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Panel-recommends-ending-California-s-16705752.php

 

Horse scat.

Why are you defending this piece of human garbage? Can you show us where you defended Rittenhouse who rightfully shot people?

Of course not skin color and political ideology is wrong

 

Why is it you keep bringing up California laws in this thread?

 

Didn't Kyle get out on bail? Don't you consider a $2,000,000 bail to have been excessive, given his age and financial resources?

 

Because you seem to be incapable of sticking to the Wisconsin law and you are basing your opinions on what other States have in their constitutions. Since you don't like California, how about Indiana? If it had happened in Indiana, bail wouldn't be an issue =

"Section 17
Text of Section 17:
Bailable Offenses

Offenses, other than murder or treason, shall be bailable by sufficient sureties. Murder or treason shall not be bailable, when the proof is evident, or the presumption strong."
https://ballotpedia.org/Article_1,_Indiana_Constitution#cite_note-in-1

Refer to Post #1 for the original question. The answer depends on which State the crime takes place in. Since the crime happened in Wisconsin, Wisconsin law applies, which says that he can get out on bail and that the bail should not be excessive. A $5,000,000 bail is excessive and violates the Wisconsin constitution.

 

You must have me confused with some other poster.

Please show anywhere where I've indicated that I am basing my opinion upon the laws of other states.

Like I said I think you're getting your replies mixed up

 

Totally not irrelevant. Personally, so long as we're talking violent felonies, I'm down with three strikes laws, but if the "urban myth" of a guy getting life for stealing a slice of pizza is true, then something does need to change. As for POC in prison, maybe they should stop committing crimes. They represent ~5% of CA's population, but about 25% of the prison population, which tells me major cultural changes need to be made, mostly involving the tendency to use violence as a FIRST option for conflict resolution, rather than a LAST resort.

 

All social problems in America revolve around the Black-White relationship. Historically, California has been a very racist State and has discriminated against all ethnic groups. It didn't abolish slavery until 1937. And it had a ton of sun-down towns, around 113,including whole counties =
https://justice.tougaloo.edu/location/california/

And don't forget, slavery is still legal when the government is the slave master. It's in the federal and State constitutions. Plus,by imprisoning as many Black people as possible it prevents them from voting.

The sad reality is that most criminals are simply too stupid to be successful crooks. trump may act stupid but he is a very successful crook.

edit typo

 

If the law literally says that accused mass murderers can go free for another round of mass murder, then this law should obviously be sabotaged first and then changed. Explain to me how on Earth it has anything to do with slavery when it has everything to do with justice and not wanting additional people to get freaking murdered?!

 

1937? 1937??? Are you drunk?

CA was never a slave State, even back when slavery was legal in some other State's, so I have zero clue what you're talking about. Which makes two of us, because neither do you. And even if it had been a slave State (which it wasn't), that would have ended in 1865 when the 13th Amendment passed.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Pretty simple, actually.

I can't imagine what reality you live in where that is a "sad reality". It is a "reality", on that we agree, but I think that's a good thing because it means most of them are too stupid to not get caught, so they end up in prison, and off the streets where they can continue to be a danger to society.

 

It sure would nice if American citizens learned American history.

Here's your reading assignment =
How California became a slave state and stayed one for decades after the Civil War
John Briscoe
Nov. 27, 2021
"The Indian Slavery Act remained on the books for nearly a hundred years; it was not repealed until 1937."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion...-became-a-slave-state-and-stayed-16649499.php

BTW, there were public slave auctions in America after the passage of the 13th Amendment. Black people were advertised in newspapers to be sold to the highest bidder at public auctions.

Scroll down this link = https://www.aaihs.org/slavery-the-13th-amendment-and-mass-incarceration-a-response-to-patrick-rael/ and you will see an ad dated Saturday, 8h December, 1866, advertising a Negro man named Richard Harris, for sale as a slave to the highest bidder for six months.

Columbia University has the same ad on a pdf in Chapter 2 of a paper titled "Except as Punishment for a Crime"

The ad was printed on Dec. 3, 1866; the auction was on December 8, 1866. That is one year after the 13th Amendment became effective. And, since slavery is still legal in America, you could buy some slaves from the government if the price is right.