Why would anyone think that "globalism" is so bad?

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Do you generally support the UN, warts and all?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    It's just another version of "it'll be just like Portland, Oregon", only bigger, and with additional spices. They think their lives will remain free, lush, and cafe-based, and that the funny little brown people will simply be able to join in, at last. Because god knows, that's all the teeming brown majority want in life .. a little Progressivism and wealth sharing. Not.
     
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    global trade & globalism are completely different things... globalism is conformity, meaning everyone must give up something in order to please all... why are we imposing democracy on those that don't want it, is that liberal or democratic, don't forget that the usa is a republic not a democracy, true democracies failed miserably... if the usa is truely a liberal democratic society , tell us why it refuses to sign the un treaty forbidding the use of napalm...

    lets turn this around, would you feel the same way about globalism if it were the chinese promoting it as a communist society? why, not? ... exactly, because you don't wanna give up the freedoms you have now, but going globalism as a democratic republic will also reduce your freedoms and lifestyle...
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LoL. Sure.

    https://listverse.com/2013/01/28/top-10-failures-of-the-united-nations-2/

    -In July, Serbian forces invaded the area, forcing the small UN team back. As many as 20,000 Bosniak refugees fled to the UN compound in Potocari, seeking protection from the advancing Serbs. Despite the UN peacekeeping force present, Serbian soldiers entered the camp, raping Bosniak women and murdering freely while the Dutch peacekeepers did nothing. By July 18th, 7,800 Bosniaks were dead, due largely to an ill-equipped and unprepared UN force.

    -Reports from Bosnia, Kosovo, Cambodia, Haiti, and Mozambique revealed a shocking trend; areas with peacekeeping forces saw a rapid rise in child prostitution.
    Often, soldiers would reward the children with candy or small sums of money, so they could claim the sexual relationship was prostitution rather than rape. Senior officials in the United Nations refused to condemn the peacekeepers, as they feared this public shaming would discourage nations from joining peacekeeping forces.

    -The most recent use of the veto was by China and Russia, on July 19th, 2012. The Security Council attempted to evoke chapter VII sanctions from the United Nations Charter to intervene and prevent genocide in Syria. But the vetoes by China and Russia halted any international intervention. Since the Syrian Civil War began, an estimated 60,000 civilians have been killed, with thousands more displaced.

    -Until 1994, the United Nations recognized the Khmer Rouge as the true government of Cambodia, despite the fact that they had killed 2.5 million Cambodians, amounting to 33% of their total population.

    -The fighting forced 196,000 people to flee, and trapped over 50,000 civilians. Independent experts urged the Human Rights Council of the UN to investigate claims of war crimes, and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon acknowledged being “appalled” by the situation, but the United Nations made no attempts to intervene on behalf of the civilian population. From January to April of 2009, over 6,500 civilians were killed in this so-called “safe-zone”.

    -Almost immediately, the USSR disregarded these. Civic rights were virtually non-existent. Stalin continued to rule with an iron fist, silencing all opponents. In numerous Soviet Bloc nations, uprisings demanding the rights established in the UDHR were crushed with force. With the United Nations unwilling to act upon such atrocities, the words in the charter were rendered meaningless for those who needed them the most.

    -Despite this condemnation, the UN did not enter Sudan, instead urging members of the African Union to intervene. As the African Union attempted an intervention, it became apparent that the Sudanese military was destroying civilian populations. Reports emerged revealing that Sudanese military planes were painted white, to resemble UN humanitarian aircraft, only to drop bombs on villages. It was not until 2006 that 200 UN soldiers were dispatched to the area.

    -Thousands had flocked to the school for UN protection, and roaming gangs of Hutu supporters killed nearly all of them. Close to one million Rwandans were killed in the genocide, amounting to twenty percent of the population.

    -Despite this treaty, nuclear stockpiles remain high, and numerous nations continue to develop these devastating weapons, including North Korea, Israel, Pakistan, and India. The failure of the non-proliferation treaty details the ineffectiveness of the United Nations, and their inability to enforce crucial rules and regulations on offending nations.


     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BUNK. Give your evidence that a TRUE democracy fails. IN HISTORY. Then, you can give us a country that is s true Communist country, or even a true capitalist country. They don't exist.

    Trump is aiming for our FREEDOMS. They are in peril. Globalism is NOT asking, nor telling us to be capitalist, communist, socialist or fascist. IT is a bunch of hoowie.
     
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    Sweden and much of Europe certainly is having trouble understanding their current reality.
     
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    You are wrong on all counts:

    1) Nationalism is way overblamed for conflicts around the world.
    2) The second Iraq war was a fully justified conflict that should've been fought years earlier.
    3) The United Nations is crap and has probably caused or exacerbated far more problems that it solved. The United Nations needs ripping up and replacing.
     
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    Same with Democracy, rule of law and tight libel laws.
     
  8. crank

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    The berserk assumption that the funny little brown peeps would a) be grateful for the invite, and b) immediately assimilate, is to blame.
     
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    Globalism is pure evil. Globalist Corporations are enslaving the people now more than ever. I posted a video about Walmart, check the threads created by me and watch an eye-opener.
     
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    There is no sovereignty under globalism, the "New World Order" replaces the full right and power of a country's governing body over itself, without any interference from outside sources like the oligarchy.
     
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    The second Iraq war had nothing to do with nationalism. More to do with the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 signed into law by President Clinton and British intelligence feeding the Bush (43) with fake intelligence.
     
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    From your own link:
    But because they weren't 100% effective you want to kill it. There are lots of medicines that aren't 100% effective. Should we throw them out too?
     
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    It was based on propaganda and backed by campaigns like "Freedom Fries", attacking dissent (Dixie Chicks), and lying about WMD's and liberating anyone.
     
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    President G.W. Bush just repeated the lies (fake intelligence) that British intelligence fed the Bush administration.

    Even Saddam Hussein blamed the British not Bush for invading Iraq.

    It's all here.

    Saddam Hussein Talks to the FBI:

    Twenty Interviews and Five Conversations with "High Value Detainee # 1" in 2004
    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB279/
    Read the Documents
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    1. FBI Form, January 1, 2004
    2. Interview Session 1, February 7, 2004
    3. Interview Session 2, February 8, 2004
    4. Interview Session 3, February 10, 2004
    5. Interview Session 4, February 13, 2004
    6. Interview Session 5, February 15, 2004
    7. Interview Session 6, February 16, 2004
    8. Interview Session 7, February 18, 2004
    9. Interview Session 8, February 20, 2004
    10. Interview Session 9, February 24, 2004
    11. Interview Session 10, February 27, 2004
    12. Interview Session 11, March 3, 2004
    13. Interview Session 12, March 5, 2004
    14. Interview Session 13, March 11, 2004
    15. Interview Session 14, March 13, 2004
    16. Interview Session 15, March 16, 2004
    17. Interview Session 16, March 19, 2004
    18. Interview Session 17, March 23, 2004
    19. Interview Session 18, March 28, 2004
    20. Interview Session 19, March 30, 2004
    21. Interview Session 20, May 1, 2004
    22. Casual Conversation, May 10, 2004
    23. Casual Conversation, May13, 2004
    24. Casual Conversation, June 11, 2004
    25. Casual Conversation, June 17, 2004
    26. Casual Conversation, June 28, 2004
    27. [Excised] IT-Iraq, March 21, 2004
     
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    Ignoring our own intelligence. He had his motivations, but nationalism was used to drum up / force support.
     
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    Yeah they sound real successful. They just rape, kill and look the other way during the worst atrocities on record in history.

    Other than that they're great. Just a few million dead people.

    I can't wait until China is in charge of human rights enforcement.
     
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    You overstate everything. Yes there was a child rape scandal. But millions dying is the fault of the UN??? Please...
     
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    When it comes to security issues, the UN can't do squat unless we vote yes.
     
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    More than a million died in Rwanda alone, so no, I didn't overstate a single thing.

    That was nothing, of course, compared to what the Khmer Rouge did.
     
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