Will both Robert Mueller be prevented from testifying?

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Will Bill Barr try to obstruct justice and prevent Mueller from testifying

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  2. Yes

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  3. I'm not sure, maybe

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Contempt for following the law? This is how desperate they have become? Theater of the absurd.


    The senior members of the judiciary and intelligence committees have access and none have them have bother to go and read it.
     
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    What's your team doing?
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Once again a President does not get immunity. The grand jury could have issued an indictment, Mueller could have charged with a crime. Then it's up to Congress to either immediately remove the President so he can be prosecuted or say no after he leaves office you can proceed. Do you really think if he murdered his wife the prosecutor would OH WELL presidents cannot be charged with a crime and indicted so he gets away with it? The Independent Counsel indicted Bill Clinton. They took the charge to the Congress and said we have a criminal charge and now up to you to remove him or make us wait. That same thing could have happened here and it did not, the Special Counsel said no obstruction of justice could be found, they turned it over to the AG the DAG and OOL and they found the same.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'll call him a ****** liar too, as he has ALREADY said he disagrees with Barr's DOJ recommendations. That is what Barr lied to Congress about under oath.
     
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    Other than it sounds neat to you, what makes you think a president can waive executive privilege for one action and not another? For the record Trump is in his perfect right to exert executive privilege with McGahn testifying before congress. And the courts will uphold it if it even comes to that, which I do not think it will.

    I see no one trying to stop Mueller's testimony. Certainly not Barr nor Trump. Mueller is legally allowed to issue his own report and discuss it, and Barr and Trump are not giving it a second thought.

    The House, through Nadler and Cummings, is in no way carrying out their constitutional duties which are entirely and limited to legislative. Congress is the branch that is attacking the separation of powers by exerting unauthorized and unconstitutional control over the executive branch (president). The Democrats are the ones assailing democracy with a concerted effort to overthrow a duly elected president to disenfranchise 63 million voters. Man! Talk about voter suppression and killing democracy!
     
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    Well, we really don't know that either.... We don't know exactly what Mueller disagreed with and I don't think that's exactly what they are saying Barr lied about either...

    Both of which are reasons we need to hear from him on the 15th...
     
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    I would much rather hear from Mueller than hear your opinion.
    He's right here. Let him tell the story.
     
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    But.... but... but.... he said all he needed to say in his report....

    Wait for it.....
     
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    What's he going to say different from what I just said?

    And as Barr noted that had nothing to do with the decision to charge. Mueller was free to do as Starr/Ray did with Clinton. Issue the charges of a criminal act and then if Congress impeaches and removes then prosecute else wait until he leaves office. Mueller could bring no charge, the AG and DAG and OLC could bring no charge. There are no sealed indictments even, it's over. The evidence did not amount to it. What more is there to say?

    And I have no problem with him testifying but I can well imagine the circus the Democrats will turn it into and perhaps even resort to their invective agains him when he confirms the findings of his report and tells them to take a hike when they demand he discuss grand jury testimony.
     
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    So why’s he saying mueller shouldn’t?
     
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    My “team” doesn’t hold the whitehouse.
     
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    A grand jury indictment or a Mueller charge would have been instantly quashed by the courts. As much as you evidently dislike it, if the president murders his wife he cannot be charged with a crime while a sitting president. Like a senator who murders another senator in the capitol likewise cannot be charged with a crime while still a senator, though senators are much more easily removed than presidents.
    Starr did not indict Bill Clinton. He got Clinton to testify in front of a grand jury because Clinton volunteered to do so. Clinton was charged in the Paula Jones civil case but that was not Starr's legal doing. Starr might have charged Clinton had he been removed by the senate.
     
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    Muller covered that when he said the president didn't have the opportunity to defend himself if he wasn't impeached.
    Just because Starr had no ethics doesn't mean he should be used as a model.
     
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    Your team is tearing apart America.
     
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    Even if Mueller DID say there was no collusion all that proves is that the KGB is pretty good at covering its tracks. There are other investigations still ongoing in the House, let's see what they uncover as well


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    This is not a "fishing expedition, hoax or witch hunt" There is more than enough evidence to warrant investigation on all these matters. That doesn't necessarily mean crimes were committed but this much evidence rarely comes about without cause.
     
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    Only in you dreams. Mueller said he does not disagree with Barr's summary.
     
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    Again? Oh nossssssssss!!



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    He's maybe going to say what anybody not viewing the world from inside Trump's rear end does. That Barr is a lying POS
     
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    Can you cite that please? The letter Mueller sent to Barr did not seem to say that.
     
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    And when he doesn't? Then what?:roflol:
     
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    I'm all for it....I just am curious who the next great hope for the Dems are gonna be when Mueller destroys this false narrative? Aren't you all running out of people?
     
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    All he's proven is that the KGB is good at covering its tracks
     
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    Because he knows what the Democrats will try to turn it into, another circus of baseless accusations and specious assertions and Mueller better watch out they will have no problem trashing him too when he doesn't tell them what they want to hear. They have his full report, which Barr DID NOT have to send to them and Barr's testimony.
     
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    He could have already said that but instead he told Barr and had no disagreement with the letter.
     
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    Barr's testimony from the conference call with him. Has Mueller issued anything to the contrary which he is free to do?
     
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    lol.....................Two years of goose eggs, zeroes, nadas, zips, and zilches. I get it. You'll go with "Mueller-incompetent for $500 Alex". :roflol:


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