Will both Robert Mueller be prevented from testifying?

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Will Bill Barr try to obstruct justice and prevent Mueller from testifying

  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  3. I'm not sure, maybe

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Evidence of what? What additional needs to be investigated and why are you accusing Mueller of not doing a thorough investigation?
     
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    Oh God no. Trump all by himself is good for a couple of years. :)
     
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    We need a continuous series of televised Congressional investigations for the next year at least. I want to hear from Comey, Mueller, McGahn, Don Jr., Kushner, Ivanka, Stormy Daniels, The translaters from Trump Putin meetings, a couple more days of Cohen, Rosenstein, Strzok, Page, Holder, Lynch, McCabe, Clapper and I am sure there are enough others to do one a week for at least a year. We need some real oversight here.
     
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    Yeah, but aren't you all gonna need someone to keep hope alive that the Russian thing happened?
     
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    We know the Russian "thing" happened. Trump seems to be the only one still denying it.
    I never saw Trump's name in the Rosenstein memo, so no, I'm happy to move on to obstruction now. You know the obstruction that kept them from finding "collusion." :)
     
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    Mueller was disappointed with what he described as “did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance” but he said he did not find the summary inaccurate or misleading. His opinion about the context derived from what Mueller thought was unclear and misrepresentative media reporting.
     
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    From Rosenstein's appointment memo: "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump;"
    Since Trump was the most open and transparent president ever in cooperating with an investigation -- provided over a million requested documents, exerted no executive privilege, allowed the white house chief counsel to testify unencumbered -- from what trash bin are you digging up this obstruction nonsense?
     
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    No obstruction and no collusion. Mueller denies it too
     
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    Oh.... he DID?? When did he SAY that?? I just re-read his letter to Barr on 3/27, and it SAYS (or indicates or insinuates) nothing of the sort.

    Are you Mueller's next door neighbor? Milkman? Barista??
     
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    They have a redacted report and an AG who felt the need to spin it before releasing it.
    Let’s hear from mueller.
     
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    That might not be a convincing argument.
     
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    You dont know what needs Barr felt.

    What we do know is that Barr didn't spin the report.
     
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    Er...

    Which has nothing to do with your theory of permanent, irrevocable loss of executive privilege.
     
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    I've heard different, can you cite that? Thank you
     
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    Mueller's staff were co-redactors along with the Office of Legal counsel.

    Which parts do you want unredacted especially in part 2 where 98% is interacted and Congress already has a less redacted version?

    Grand Jury: Coded red, this is information that was presented to a grand jury and cannot be made public.

    Harm to Ongoing Matter: Coded white, this is information that could compromise other ongoing investigations if it were made public.

    Investigative Technique: Coded yellow, this is information that would give away intelligence-gathering techniques or compromise informants.

    Personal Privacy: Coded green, this is information the Justice Department decided would unfairly damage the reputation or infringe the privacy of “peripheral third parties” — people not central to the investigation.
     
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    It is all in the WaPo article.
     
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    Even though the scope of his investigation was rather broad and went well beyond collusion conspiracy there were still things Mueller mentioned but turned over to others. Additionally the Congressional Investigations may have turned up things on their own. Mueller did nothing wrong here.
     
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    Behind a paywall. Anything else?
     
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    He asked him during the conference call with all attorney's and OLC personell listening and taking notes said no he did not disagree.
     
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    Nobody is saying public, release it congress at leSt. Give them the full picture.
     
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    He turned no further investing over to anyone, quote him saying so. And now you're totally baseless statements and "may haves" if Congress has already found it where are the criminal referrals?
     
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    They have the less redacted version. They have no right to grand jury or personal information. Some have clearence to classified. They in faxt have no legal right to any of it but Barr has been EXTREMELY cooperative.

    But you and the left and the MSM only prove the point. The ONLY report hat would satisfy you would be one charging Trump as a Russian spy and charging him with felony crimes regardless of the evidence and lack there of.
     

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