Will Trump ever be Held Accountable for Jan 6th

What consequences? For a PROTEST? Protests are a right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

 

FYI: For Your Information: What is Trump protesting about? He's out for himself and that is it. Trump cares for no one but himself. The other protest such as Civil Rights and stuff like that would be OK. I don't see anything wrong with that. What Trump is doing is only for himself and when Trump was POTUS, I believed that he was above the laws of the land. No man is above the law and that is a fact. Whether you want to believe it or not, Trump is a very dangerous man and I mean dangerous. If he were to get in there again, the democracy that we all know might be gone tomorrow and that's one more thing to think about. That's all for now.

 

The Trump years were great. He took care of us in ways that Biden has screwed us. Trump cares about the common American and proved it by providing us with:
- Safer borders
- Cheaper fuel
- Stronger military
- Lower inflation
- No new wars
- Abraham Accords
- "Operation Warp Speed"... fast tracking the China Virus through the FDA
.... ad infinitum...

 

Trump lost money being President. Biden has sucked on the public tit ever since he passed the bar (on the second or third try). What gives you belief that Biden actually cares about anyone but his crime ridden family?

 

Responsibility for the riot that occurred? No.
He told them three times in the first hour, during the speech and twice he tweeted, to be peaceful, respect and obey the police. There was no other action for him to take.

I'm assuming you are saying the officials in the DC metro government and at the Capital bare not one iota responsibilty for failing to have adequate security in place in spite of all the warnings and urgings they recieved?

 

What reinforcements he is prevented by the Constitution and the law from sending the military into domestic law enforcement. The Mayor and the Capital Hill police have to request it first and they refused the urgings of Trump and the DOJ and DOD to do so. And had Trump done so on his own then the Dems and MSM would have declared he was engaged in a military coup.

 

Hah-hah-hah...
1. Over $8T debt.
2. Bedlam in the streets of the US due to the constant Hate rhetoric.
3. Military generals called him out for what he was - a buffoon.
4. Mismanaged COVID crisis.
5. Borders weren't safer under Trump - Obama had more deportations than Trump - nothing but talk.
6. No health care reform like promised, no infrastructure bill like promised, no Mexico-paid wall like promised. All talk!

 

False. Sore loser Trump should have been impeached early on, for his shady business dealings. The Republican House let him get away with this crap --->

https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ons-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5

2018 ---Trump's controversial ZTE order came days after the Chinese government provided millions to a Trump Organization-tied project

"President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast," Trump tweeted Sunday. "Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!"

 

I noticed you didn't mention the 3-1/2 hours of watching on TV. How convenient. If he didn't want the violence, why didn't he stop it? The blinder sunglasses that you MAGA Republicans wear are now non-optic. 9 people eventually died!

 

Same place Nancy was supposed to get the reinforcements

 

1, True
2. Bedlam in the streets? Oh, you mean because of the George Floyd thing... that was only in the last six months of Trump's time in office and wasn't cased by any action or policy of Trump. What "hate rhetoric" are you referring to? I can't find it.
3. Once generals leave active duty and are able to speak freely, they endorse Trump. (235 retired military leaders publicly endorse Trump in open letter - here it is | American Military News)
4. How did Trump "mismanage" the China Virus Crisis? By sending a hospital ship where it was needed in New York City? By establishing a military hospital in the Javits Center? Or by directing "Operation Warp Speed" that fast tracked the China Virus Vaccine through the FDA... so fast that Biden was able to be vaccinated before he took office?
5. Trump had a much safer border. You don't measure apprehensions... you measure by illegals that got through and crossed the border illegally.
This never happened under Trump: Migrants: NYC Mayor Eric Adams declares emergency over asylum seekers | CNN
6. - Health care is fine, although being crippled by free care for millions of illegal immigrants
- Infrastructure seems fine. Do you have any specifics of why such a bill is needed?
- Idiots think Trump's references to Mexico "paying for the wall" meant Mexico would write a check. The reference obviously referred to increased revenues once the border was secured by the wall. More tariffs collected, more border crossing fees collected, less money being sent to Mexico by illegal aliens in the US, etc. would have Mexico paying the bill

 

The occupation of the Capitol was not caused by Trump (he urged protesters to obey the law). How was he supposed to stop the illegal trespass?
9 people died... mostly from natural causes. The only person shot was an unarmed protester (veteran) stepping through a window.

 

This is BS, and you know it. You didn't answer the question. If he didn't want the violence, why didn't he stop it? And don't tell me he didn't have the power, because he eventually did stop it, with a single tweet.

 

Talk about BS. He didn't stop it with a tweet. The protest simply ran out of steam after a few hours... as most protests do.

 

Living in a Bubble?

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1069...ack-unfolded-including-who-said-what-and-when

Shortly after 4 p.m.

Biden addresses the nation.

"I call on President Trump to go on national television now, to fulfill his oath and defend the Constitution and demand an end to this siege. This is not a protest — it is an insurrection," Biden says.

4:17 p.m.
Trump does not go on TV. Instead, he tweets a video talking to his supporters inside the Capitol.

"I know your pain. I know your hurt," he begins. "We love you. You're very special. You've seen what happens. You've seen the way others are treated. ... I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace."

At subsequent court trials of insurrectionists, they stated that they left because their president told them to. Look what one lawyer said about his Jan 6th defendant.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/14/justice-dept-jan-6-trial-00025287

He reminded them that Thompson had spent nearly a year out of work before Jan. 6, isolated amid the pandemic and consuming a firehose of pro-Trump disinformation and propaganda.

 

Biden's words are irrelevant.
Trump DID try to end the protest...I thought you said he didn't. You don't get on TV instantly... it takes planning. Using the internet sounds like a good, quicker idea. It motivated some to go home, as you described.
You wrote "If he didn't want the violence, why didn't he stop it?". But by your own admission he DID stop it... with a single tweet. You ask why he didn't stop it, then describe how he stopped it. Are you a bit confused?

Thompson? The machine gun guy or the guy who played the Manhattan DA on Law and Order?

 

Sooooo - you re claiming that the speaker of the house has more power than the president?

 

How do you explain Trump being impeached twice?
His primary goal in his presidency was to enrich himself and his family. He didn’t try to make America strong, he tried to turn conservatives against the world. He discarded decades of work on international relations and became good pals with dictators who commit atrocities against their own people (poison gas to wipe out villages of “trouble-makers”, etc). He put wedges between conservatives and non-conservatives by making up lies “too ridiculous to be fake”. He praised the military in public and insulted them behind their back. He hired his family to his administration (presidents besides trump have always had political professionals and experts). He fired everyone who gave him advice that didn’t correspond with his plans. He attacked everyone he didn’t like - rather than letting them have a position he turned his followers against them and usually ruined their careers. He promised to only hire the best people, as opposed to Obama who supposedly only had corrupt people, then Trump turned on some of them (ruining their careers) and a handful of others are in jail for crimes they committed on his behalf. He blatantly lies, and when challenged on his absurdities he doubles down and blames democrats for a witch hunt against him. He is a known sexual predator - he even said when he likes a woman he just “grabs em by the you know what.” Conservative presidents have done the same thing for centuries - the same thing as democratic presidents - tried to make progress on top of past presidents’ progress. Trump tore down as much of what past presidents did as possible while steering the country towards things that would make him money.

The problem is that he behaves like a dictator. He just happens to have a huge following because he produced an enemy that will “destroy America”. He told such amazing lies about Dems and libs that half the country now think Dems eat babies and want anarchy - which are absurd. Mostly Dems and libs just want to be left alone by conservative, and especially conservative Christians who want to lock them up for not being like conservatives, or for being Godless.

Trump has turned the country from a smooth running country with its problems into a problem-laden fire pit that is laughed at by the rest of the world and has pitted race against race, religion against religion, young against old, men against women, and so so much more. He claimed he would “drain the swamp” - instead he filled it up more and dumped all of his narcissism into it and lit it on fire

Eventually conservatives got so whipped up by him that they attacked the seat of this country, the building where everyone who runs the government works. There is evidence they intended to kidnap and torture some of the people who run the country, because those people disagree with Trump. This is not the way things have ever been done in America.

Trump really screwed up the country for people your age.

Trump wasn't a great President after all

 

Only problem was he is witnessed to have refused to do so for hours and only really called it off when it became obvious it was not going to work

 

sore loser shenanigans by democrats who couldn't believe St Hillary of Ark, lost

 

Very well said, accurate, portrait of the state of MAGA.

 

Power is SHARED in our government neither has MORE they each have their own DELEGATED authorities. The President is PROHIBITED by the Constitution and statutory law from using the federal military for domestic law enforcement. Any use of federal troops on the streets of DC or at the Capital can ONLY originate by a written request by the leadership of both. They were both HIGHLY urged to get those request in and the DOJ was prepared to have the troops available. Not only did the Chief of the White House Police make the request for permission to do so to the Capital leadership he did so FOUR TIMES and was turned down. Not only did the Mayor of DC not take the advice she sent a letter the day before demanding that the federal government NOT send troops in other than the 300 she had requested for traffic control AWAY from the Capital she stated even those must be unarmed and not designated as security forces and were not to go anywhere near the Capital.

ALL of this has been posted here over and over and over why the denials?

I informed you of this 3 years ago

A year and a half ago you were instructed here

When you responded to Pops

" it seems the liberals are now changing the narrative and saying Trump should have sent in the troops as his duty... all this after Bowser wrote her letter.... cause the guards can't enter the Capitol grounds unless authorized (which Trump did) and REQUESTED by the Capitol Police and Bowser. ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MILITARY COUP TAKEOVER BY TRUMP to send the troops in without request.... Boy wouldn't the left have a field day with that one..."

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...of-the-14th-amendment.614589/#post-1074506749

So why are you claiming it was Trump's fault because he didn't order in the military?

 

Why didn't she? You are correct she was supposed to take heed the urgings of all the people in charge of security to beef up security, not an unusual step, for the coming protest.

 

I did mention that time try again...........

If not on the TV where exactly was he supposed to watch it?

ONE person died and that was an unarmed protestor who was murdered.

 

So it is Nancy’s fault for not being prescient but not Donnie’s fault for causing the disruption

Got it!