Will Trump ever be Held Accountable for Jan 6th

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Looking Back on Jan. 6th, is Trump Accountable for.(Pick all that Apply)

  1. Deaths, Dismemberment, and Subsequent Mental Issues

    23.5%
  2. Trump Incited the Riot

    64.7%
  3. Trump Broke at Least one Law of the United States

    52.9%
  4. Trump Violated his Constitutional Oath of Office

    52.9%
  5. Trump Should not have Waited 3-1/2 hours to call off the mob.

    64.7%
  6. Antifa was Responsible for the Jan 6th attack, not Trump

    11.8%
  7. If Pence would have done the Right Thing, Jan 6th wouldn't have Happened

    17.6%
  8. Trump was in the Right, because the Election was Stolen

    23.5%
  9. Those who breached the Capitol were Insurerectionists, something Trump denies

    58.8%
  10. Those who breached the Capitol were patriots something Trump claims

    23.5%
  11. The entire Incident indicates that Trump is a Sore Loser

    64.7%
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  1. Media_Truth

    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you sure? Maybe Chuck Schumer, George Soros, Robert DeNiro, Bruce Springstein, Hunter Biden, and Taylor Swift were also involved.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's rather inane
     
  3. Media_Truth

    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    About as inane as blaming Nancy Pelosi for January 6th.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    she could have had more security but that doesn't mean she's entirely to blame
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not one iota.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...osi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/

    Fact check: Nancy Pelosi wasn't ‘in charge’ of Capitol Police on Jan. 6

    In March, Capitol Police spokesperson John Stolnis told USA TODAY that the agency is overseen by the Capitol Police Board. Several congressional committees also oversee the agency, including the House and Senate appropriations committees, the House administration commitee and the Senate rules committee.

    The Capitol Police Board is made up of the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, as well as the Capitol architect. The Capitol Police chief serves in a non-voting capacity on the board, according to the Capitol Police website.

    Pelosi was not a chair or administrator of any committee supervising the Capitol Police at the time of the insurrection. She's not listed on any of those committees' websites today, either.

     
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    She is the person ultimately responsible for security at the Capitol so do you place blame on her for that total failure and blame for these deaths?
     
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    Where did you get the idea they have the top authority at the Capitol including decisions concern security?
     
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    And the board is not an autonomous independent seperate branch of the government it is part of the Legislative Branch and overseen by the Congressional leadership and as the Captain of the DC police at the time testified and written in his book the refusal to approve his repeated request to have NG troops, a standard proceedure when crowds that large are expected, to assist was denied by the TOP leadership through the board. It was Pelosi who did not want the "optics" of the additional security.


    Representative Larry Bucshon, M.D. (R-Ind.-08) released the following statement after House Republicans published a new study outlining Speaker Pelosi’s failure to secure the Capitol prior to the events of January 6, 2021.


    ICYMI: NEW REPORT: Speaker Pelosi’s January 6th Failure


    “There is no doubt that January 6, 2021 was a dark day in our nation’s history. It is unfortunate that House Democrats’ investigation has turned out to be nothing more than a taxpayer-funded partisan committee aimed at scoring political wins. However, this report showing that Speaker Pelosi and House Democrat leadership were firmly in charge of decisions regarding the safety and security of all individuals in the Capitol on January 6th should have been a big focus on the events of the day so that we could have learned from the planning and security failures that took place that day. When Republicans take majority of the House at the start of the new year, we will fulfill our Commitment to America to hold our government accountable and that starts with demanding accountability for those that actually made the decisions regarding security at the Capitol on January 6th,” said Dr. Bucshon.

    From the report

    The Speaker of the House and Democrat leadership were closely involved in security decisions in the lead up to and on January 6, 2021.

    The House Sergeant at Arms took direction from staff in the office of the Speaker of the House and intentionally excluded Republicans from key meetings and conversations related to House security.

    Staff within the House Sergeant at Arms office emailed Paul Irving that January 6th was Pelosi’s fault.

    Widespread concern from Democrat leadership over “optics” in the aftermath of summer 2020.

    The Leadership of the Intelligence and Interagency Coordination Division overhauled the division in the weeks before January 6, 2021 and created new processes for obtaining and assessing intelligence data. Those changes caused confusion and rendered key USCP components ineffective during a critical period.

    The House Sergeant at Arms was compromised by politics in the lead up to and on January 6, 2021 and did not adequately prepare the Capitol for possible violence.

    U.S. Capitol police did not give officers the appropriate training necessary to prepare them to protect the Capitol from violence.

    The U.S. Capitol police does not have the equipment necessary to protect its officers.

    The command-and-control structure of the U.S. Capitol Police and the Capitol Police Board contributed to unnecessary delays in the decision-making on January 6, 2021.

    The U.S. Capitol police has still not implemented important recommendations issued by oversight bodies.
    https://bucshon.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=4364


    Why didn't the Jan 6 committee refuse to address that?
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    USA Today Fact Check.said FALSE. I believe them over your rant.
     
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    Then post their evidence that refutes the factd above you simply declaring it so does not.
     
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    See USA Today article linked above. Talk about posting ridiculous evidence. You post a link from a Republican Congressman's website. What a joke! Why don't you post a reputable News link that will not show up as "Conspiracy Theory" when I do a Media Bias Fact Check.
     
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    You call that a consession? He didn't even mention Biden's name. I call that a s*** show.
     

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