Yitzhak Shamir deceased and mourned...

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  1. Borat

    Borat Banned

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    There has to be a reason they have been known as Perfidious Albion since the 13th century. Their treacherous deceitful disloyal backstabbing nature is well known and amply documented.
     
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    Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! Perfidious Albion was temporarily missing in my post... thanks for reviving it.
     
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    Yes HARLOWE you are right... but the picture is age old!
     
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    So what : I meant to show you , how it could've turned out for you , if it was'nt for Churchill's persuasive powers /friendship with FDR /Japanese wake up call - there was a real possibility of US swinging to far Right and making a deal with Adolf.

    While USA , with its large population of German/Austrian descent + spme americans age old anti-British sentiments , it was content to sit t on the fence /neutral , while British cities was bombed.

    Churchill--Britain + the Commonwealth stalled / delayed Nazi plans saved sufficient time to save your arses.

    however , when you decide to draw your head out of the sand then watch + learn :

    [video=youtube;xERd-T2AcEE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERd-T2AcEE[/video]



    there's much more but , sorry , aint got time for it now, I'm getting ready for a short break + some fun Spanish coast.


    btw - there's no getting away from the fact that Yid-Kak s Shamir was a psychopathic alround terrorist scumbag, a little Jewish coward who'd rather send letter bombs than have facetoface confrontations with his adversaries.


    tatty byeeee...
     
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    Worthless rant from your part... the Limeys lost 450,000 beer drinkers bah wah wah so what... the Jews lost 6 million civilians, these people bled like you did 'limeys' your weeping on 650,000 incompetent s--- in their pants sots... maybe after all, you wanted to replace their deaths with low lives Muslims from North Africa, Asia and the Middle East that are slowly eroding your country and raping your women and mounting your boys. ALL of these beauties you chose to accept in your benevolent Island refuse to integrate and want to raise the flag of Islam on the house of parliament... from things going on right now I wish them luck, you deserve a wake up call because there is no return to the status quo ante.
     
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    Why do you find it necessary to project your picture here, we all know what you are, there is no need for substantiation.
     
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    You insult our dead who fought so that the world would be rid of the Nazis, and yet you continually whine about your dead Jews and demand sympathy? Get a grip mate. Really.
     
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    Its often been said the Nazis biggest crime was that they killed the wrong Jews. (wink)


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  9. Marlowe

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    Yid-kak shamir the Masterdind :

    [video=youtube;Whyp-GrcypU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Whyp-GrcypU[/video]

    tata .....
     
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    That's the whole point, you barely fought, you perhaps saved yourself from German invasion by betraying your friends and allies and reneging on all your allied responsibilities (you are known for this behavior, Perfidious Albion) but your contribution to the defeat of Nazism was negligible at best (while your appeasement is fully responsible for its creation), Russia and the US rid the world of Nazism, not you.

    And stop whining! You come here every day to insult America, Israel, Americans, Jews, you should be thick-skinned enough to hear some truth about your ugly island and its treacherous despicable history, you Limeys created most of the problems existing in the world today in the first place.
     
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    This is very true. The Nazi Party was very big in England and the Brits would have been Hitler's staunchest allies if he hadn't have done the Blitz on them.

    Consider Unity Mitford.
     
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    Well, you can't blame the Brits for not trying. Their "Peace for our time" pact with the Nazi was an explicit permission to Hitler - annex whatever you want in Europe, murder as many people as you'd like, we won't move a finger but please, we are begging you dear fuhrer, leave our island alone. :puke:
     
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    Mitford ? Hahahahaha - You dont really believe she was an authority on British politics , do you . the woman was an air-head.
    Just goes to show how much you know. LOL

    Wrong ----- British Fascists was never near as numerous or dangerous as its American counterparts. They was NEVER the waving of Swastikas in the street of any British city.

    The main reason the Luftwaffe bombed Britain was coz British stubborness in not surrendering to the Hun. While most Brits had no inherent hatred of German - most had NOT yet forgotten WW1 .
    which hardly affected most americans. No British company continued trading with the Nazis as American corporations did.

    On the otherhand , the odds was at that time that USA with its large population of German/Austrian descent , their sentiments were positively Pro-German and would more likely to have struck a deal with Hitler.

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    As Churchill said "Never Surrender , we shall never surrender . My grandparents + most other Britons swore + too oath not to m do so.

    Whether are aware/like it or not - You owe your arse to Churchill and British servicemen - who paid the ultimate price against Nazi Fascism.


    Mandrake /BoRat/Bender + Company ,

    please stop your stupid juvenile crap in trying to belittle /devalue the price paid by others for your freedom.

    SHAME ON YOU.


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    Unity Mitford was Churchill's niece.
     
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    You dont say .:rolleyes:

    I'm English , fer fuxsake. But once again you've got it arse upards . She was a COUSIN of Churchill's wife . How does that make her an authority or reliable source - on British Politicis ?


    FYI + further education : The sad creature was the most unstable of the six sisters , a 25 yrs old screwball .

    When Britain declared war on Germany in September 1939, Unity Mitford shot herself in the head. Obsessed with Adolf Hitler, the 25 year old had moved to Munich and stalked her hero until he befriended her, declaring she was "a perfect specimen of Aryan womanhood" and giving her an apartment recently "vacated" by Jews.

    When her homeland took action, she decided to end it all. But, in a tragic twist of fate, Unity did not die that day, the bullet remaining lodged in her head until she died of cerebral meningitis, aged 33, in 1948.

    As compelling as Unity's tale is, she was just one of six sisters whose extraordinary lives made headlines around the world. There was the communist, the duchess, the novelist, the farmer and two fascists. Theirs is a tantalising tale of scandal, alcoholism, broken marriages, doomed affairs, heartache, tragedy and family feuds.

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    They were related to Churchil by MARRIAGE oNLY.

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    Are you still denying that you owe your sorry arse to Winston Churchill + British + Commonwealth servicemen . ?


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    I'm now tired + Bored of your nonsense .

    I'll go watch TV instead.


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    No, I don't. If it weren't for American Lend Lease, The Queen Mother would have had to have resorted to cannibalism and eaten Elly as the island starved to death. Heck, you brits couldn't even build a decent tank (Covenator, cough, cough) and were getting your buggered arses stomped all over Africa after being kicked off the European continent. We've saved you twice, but probably won't bother again now that you're all up to your ears in muslims.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous mar-low-life, first, no one is diminishing the contribution of those who fought the Nazis and died. (BTW almost the same number of Jews died in battle during WWII as the number of Brits even though the Jewish population was a tiny fraction of the population of the British empire and most European Jews perished in concentration camps).

    More importantly your country is responsible for appeasing the Nazis, not stopping them when there was a chance and letting them conquer most of Europe. You betrayed all your allies and friends, you reneged on your allied obligations, you stayed on your island surviving on lend-lease deliveries and not making even a feeble attempt to counter-attack, then finally when the Soviet Union liberated most of its territory, was beginning to liberate Europe and the US came to your rescue things started to happen and the German military machine started to fall apart.

    And after all that you want your useless impotent treacherous backstabbing nation to get the credit for the destruction of Nazism? Mar-lowe-life, what are you smoking?
     
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    Lend Lease ? what the fuk do you know about Lend Lease ?

    Looks like you're once again you're talking like an idiot on matters you haven a fuking clue abt .
    FDR once put in a way hopeing simple folk like you could understand >

    " Mandrake unless you read and learn before making stupid statement you'll remain stupid for the rest of yr sorry life .

    "Where did lend-lease start?
    Lend-lease came to life in an act of Congress of March 11, 1941. But the story really begins three months earlier, on December 17, 1940. The occasion was the semiweekly White House press conference.

    There was an air of expectancy that day as the reporters crowded into the President’s oval office. Almost immediately Mr. Roosevelt launched into a discussion of the war situation as it affected the United States.

    He talked about the importance to our national security of continued British resistance.

    He emphasized the advantage to us of a sturdy defense industry built up on British munitions orders. He referred to the traditional ideas of providing the sinews of war—in which the dollars-and-cents angle is most prominent.

    But, said the President, there were other methods being studied of getting war aid to Great Britain that would “eliminate the dollar sign.” To illustrate what he was getting at, he told a kind of parable.

    “Suppose my neighbor’s home catches fire,” he said, “and I have a length of garden hose four or five hundred feet away. If he can take my garden hose and connect it up with his hydrant, I may help him to putout his fire. Now, what do I do? I don’t say to him before that operation, ‘Neighbor, my garden hose cost me $15; you have to pay me $15 for it.’

    “What is the transaction that goes on? I don’t want $15—I want my garden hose back after the fire is over. All right. If it goes through the fire all right, intact, without any damage to it, he gives it back to me and thanks me very much for the use of it.

    “But suppose it gets smashed up—holes in it—during the fire. We don’t have to have too much formality about it, but I say to him, ‘I was glad to lend you that hose; I see I can’t use it any more, it’s all smashed up.’ He says, ‘How many feet of it were there?’ I tell him, ‘There were 150 feet of it.’ He says, ‘All right, I will replace it.’ Now if I get a nice garden hose back, I am in pretty good shape.”

    Where was the fire?
    This was a homely way of pointing out that the world was on fire and that the flames endangered us, too. The Rome-Berlin Axis was then almost at the crest of its power. Nazi Germany, aided by Fascist Italy, was master of the continent of Europe from the North Sea to the Adriatic and from the Pyrenees to the borders of Soviet Russia, Yugoslavia, and Greece. All the peoples living in this vast area—except the Swiss in their little island of neutrality—bowed before the dictator of Berchtesgaden and his goose-stepping armies or cringed before his murderous Gestapo. Not since Roman times had Western civilization come so close to domination by a single nation.

    Britain virtually alone opposed the armed might of the Axis. Poland, France, Belgium, Holland, and Norway all had fallen after brief resistance. Britain’s armies had lost their equipment in the retreat from Dunkirk. British cities were being bombed by the Luftwaffe. Parts of London were in ruins. So were sections of Birmingham, Liverpool, Coventry, Plymouth, and other cities. Across the Channel the Germans were massing barges, troops, and materials for an invasion of the British Isles.

    German planes were already heard over Iceland and a Nazi radio station was discovered in Greenland. Nicely spaced between this country and England, it indicated plainly enough which way the Germans were looking if they ever became established in the British Isles.

    Could we feel the heat over here?
    What was the feeling of people in the United States at the time? We had watched with growing concern the spread of war and Nazi conquest. We didn’t like the looks of things, but we weren’t convinced that the situation called for us to jump into the fight. Our national policy for many years had been to stay out of any conflict which did not directly affect the Western Hemisphere.

    But ever since Dunkirk and the fall of France in June 1940 a large section of American public opinion had become united on several points. Many of us had conic to feel that it was “our war.” Most of us began to realize that, although we were not actually in the war, we could and should help Britain and the other nations fighting Axis aggression. In line with this thought President Roosevelt on September 2, 1940 swapped 50 over-age American destroyers, which the British badly needed, for 99-year leases on bases in British islands and coastal possessions in the Caribbean area. At the same time Great Britain leased to us for 99 years, freely and with out consideration,” similar bases in Bermuda and Newfoundland.

    The hour of decision
    In America we had begun our own defense program, building up our Army and Air Forces and expanding our Navy into a two-ocean fleet. We were determined to be prepared against attack from any quarter—in the Pacific or Atlantic.

    How to aid friends and hit Nazis
    As the year 1940 drew to a close, it was clear to many people that the Nazis would not rest long. They were preparing new and more powerful blows. The coming spring would probably see new aggression, perhaps new defeats for the democracies, possibly final defeat for Britain and the still independent European countries.

    Numerous individuals and associations were urging Congress and the President to act, demanding a clear governmental policy of all aid short of war to the nations still fighting the Axis. But meanwhile our aid to Britain, instead of increasing rapidly, was threatened with a breakdown.

    Our assistance at that time was basically governed by the Neutrality Act of November 1939. This provided that arms and other weapons could be made available to the warring nations on a “cash-and-carry basis”; that is, the goods must be paid for in cash on this side of the ocean and carried across in foreign vessels. American ships were forbidden to sail into the war zones.

    Furthermore, according to the Johnson Act of 1934, no loans could be made to nations which, like England, had defaulted on their World War I debts.

    In the year following the passage of the “cash-and-carry” provisions, Great Britain had bought large amounts of war goods in the United States and had transported them on British ships. But now Britain’s dollar resources were running low. Unless we became something more than a friendly seller on a cash basis, British purchases would have to stop altogether. Without American supplies Britain could not hope to fight effectively. Its own factories and shipyards could not turn out all the planes, guns, ammunition, tanks, ships, and other articles needed to hold off the Axis.

    part 2 follow :
     
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    My understanding of Lend Lease is exactly as you have posted it, although I wish you had been a less long winded. I agree with history. You pikers were in a bit of a fix and we bailed you out, again.
     
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    Part 2 :

    Wary couldn’t Britain pay?


    Just exactly what was Britain’s ability to keep on with cash payments in December 1940? She had entered the war in September 1939 with about 4.5 billion dollars of gold and investments in securities in the United States. Most of these belonged to private British citizens and British companies.

    During the first year of the war the British government had bought these holdings from its citizens, paying for them in British government bonds. Then it sold the securities and gold reserves for dollars, and pooled the whole amount in one fund. This process produced a supply of dollars on this side with which Britain could purchase war goods in the United States.

    From September 1939 to the end of 1940 the British managed to realize some 2 billion dollars—in addition to the 4.5 billion dollars mentioned above—from sales of gold newly mined in the British Empire, from exports, and other sources.

    But this additional amount had been spent in 1940 for war purchases, chiefly in the United States. Thus, by December 1940, the British supply of dollars was down to about 2 billion. About 1.5 billion of this would be needed to pay for munitions and supplies already ordered in the United States but not yet delivered. So low was Britain’s dollar reserve that new orders for war goods had almost stopped at the time when she needed them most.

    Should we be democracy’s arsenal?

    This was one phase of the total situation that the- President had in mind as he addressed the reporters on December 17, 1940. Three weeks later, on January 6, 1941, he delivered his annual message to Congress on “The State of the Union.” In it he asked for authority and funds to manufacture additional munitions and supplies and turn them over to Great Britain and other nations fighting the Axis.

    He reminded Congress that during the past sixteen months the assault of the Axis powers had blotted out democracy in an appalling number of independent nations, great and small. The assailants were still on the march, threatening other countries, threatening us. He emphasized the need for supporting fully the peoples who were resisting aggression and thereby keeping war away from our own land.

    “Let us say to the democracies,” he said, “‘We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you in ever increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, and guns.’”

    In short, he proposed that America become “the arsenal of democracy.” The job placed before Congress was to provide the country with a law that would meet the situation in spirit and in fact. It required an epoch-making decision on policy and the setting up of machinery to provide the needed help in ships, planes, tanks, guns, food, and other supplies.

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    -- btw - it wasnt charity + acts of altruism or even love of democracy it was for profit . . America was also paid upfront with all France's gold reserves which was hipped to Guadalope before the Nazi invasion of France. America was the only country which ended up considerable richers AFTER the war than at the beginning . US armaments/shipbuilders etc + steel industrialists grew fat and disgusting rich from WW2.
     
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    Who's the fuking "WE " what part did you or your family play in it.

    btw- Did you read the part of Churchill's speech which I've posted. ?

    Mandrak - GO LEARN - I'm, off to bed. Got to get up early to catch a o3.00 hours flight to Malaga, taking a well deserved break at our family villa.

    Byeeeeee.
     
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    Yes, I get it. We were nice enough to sell you chavs some garden hose so you could put out the fires during the Blitz. You should be happy that Hitler didn't offer more money and send hookers.

    Something for Something and Nothing for Nothing...remember that.
     
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    Plenty likely wept at news of the death of many evil people.

    This is just another.
     
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    That is because they are utterly ungrateful, but ALWAYS WANT MORE.
     
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