New feature: Like and Dislike added to posts

I just got 27 dislikes from Montoya!!

 

Congrats RP... new record!!!!!

ROFLMAO

 

i like this feature because i haven't been getting alot of reputation or its very hard to impress posters to get the luxury of them writing feedback so now ive been getting a bit more attention with the likes and dislikes

 

Bit like the rep system, eh?

Glad you got it figured out. I've also realised that when I like a post, it notifies me and tells me that I have liked a post. I really don't need a reminder...does that happen to anyone else?

Its easy to click the wrong button, it would be better if you could change it if you needed to.

 

Ahahahahaha....he must be setting his alarm clock early just to get up and dislike your posts.

Montoya, get off the fence and tell us what you think man.

Looks around... ... anyone hear a noise in here...?

 

For the same post? If so, that shouldn't be happening.
We are wondering if there's a glitch.

 

Nope. The Rep System had no negative button. It was only posititve. The only "abuse" could be to overly praise someone. What we see here still at PF is that while unable to fix one problem, you are still very efficient at creating new ones.

 

This whole business is peculiarly American. If you want to be liked, join a charm school - politics is about argument. In one of Sheridan's plays someone is praised as being liked by everyone. 'I am very sorry', says a wiser character, 'that he should be liked by rogues and scoundrels'. That's my recollection: Sheridan experts can post dislikes: I promise not to look.

 

Initially, I did not imagine something as innocuous would possibly be abused.

...I'm beginning to think otherwise.


*sigh*

 

Oh no 27 different ones, lol. He loves me! And hes obviously a huge Sandusky fan.

 

The site did most certainly and specifically enable it. Further, such "dislike" buttons are deliberately excluded in other sites. Abuse of such features is nothing new.

Personally I could give a rat's ass less about whether I get dinged by the small minds here. Its the same handful of trolls always who soil this place. But that this feature has been abused should come as a surprise to no one.

 

A like or a dislike has weight, just like any opinion, based on who is providing it, and in what context.

If an individual goes around disliking everything, then them disliking yours, isn't particularly relevant.
If an individual goes around liking everything, then them liking yours isn't particularly relevant.

If an individual has a history of liking posts you find impressive, then them liking yours would certainly be a compliment.
If an individual has a history of disliking posts you find objectionable, then them disliking yours might make you re-think your position.

Everything is about context. People who revel in giving or receiving likes or dislikes, regardless of the source, are people who do not want genuine debate. The only opinions that matter to them, are those that agree with their own. And I'd rather have my time be wasted by somebody disregarding a dislike by me, than have more time be wasted writing a complete rebuttal, just for them to ignore it because it doesn't fit their preconceptions.

Similarly, those who are new, learn a lot about people based on the likes and dislikes.

If somebody writes a post with no useful content, but gets likes anyways, then the names of who is liking that post, becomes beneficial. Clearly, the people liking poorly-constructed posts that simply agree with their ideology can be easily disregarded. Likewise with those who dislike well-crafted posts just because it disagrees with their ideology, can be similarly disregarded.

Things like this, like the rep system, can only be handled in-context. The only difference is that there is transparency and accountability, with the likes and dislikes.

 

Wanting to be liked is peculiarly American? What absolute nonsensical idiocy. Everyone wants to be liked, people who say otherwise are lying or deluding themselves!!


Now wanting to have your posts liked at this forum, that is another question altogether!!

 

Wanting to be liked by people you despise is proof of emotional idiocy, surely? And I don't say the bit about Americans without thinking. It is probably because they mostly start off as foreigners, but they do seem terrible short of confidence. I want to be liked by people I admire, all four of them.

 

Not wanting to be liked is a peculiar self-preservation mechanism developed by unlikable people. No one likes them, so they then convince themselves they never wanted to be liked in the first place. It is of course just delusion though, as I said, and those people do want to be liked deep down.

 

Iolo isn't talking about not being liked.

It's about being liked by people you respect.

 

That is irrelevant. Human beings survived as a species because of our ability to work together in groups. Therefore it is evolutionarily beneficial to fit in with the group, and not be ostracized from it. Therefore evolutionary psychology would say that all people desire to fit in with the group, or be liked as is being said in this thread. Our species didn't have the benefit of only fitting in with groups they "respected." It is just a coping mechanism "ya, I am liked by the people I respect, and that is all that matters to me." Wanting to be liked is a natural human desire, so to say that it is peculiarly American is just nonsense. And it is just a nonsensical xenophobic attack with no basis in reality. Generalizing about whole groups of people is almost always an ignorant thing to do, but this one was especially silly because as I explained, everyone wants to be liked.

 

You are falsifying. I dont want not to be liked - I simply don't care what right-wing brainwashed nutters do when someone presses their buttons: I only care about humans - FactChecker, for instance.

 

I don't know what thread you are referring to, but even if it is non-partisan(I will be kind and take your word for it), you have a reputation, and people are going to often like or dislike based on that alone. You are right it IS silly and petty, but as I said this system shines a light on the ignorant and petty nature of the forum members!! It has nothing to do with left vs right. I am further left than every person on that list webrock posted, and I believe I have disliked 1 post and I think I have only had 1 of my posts disliked as well. It requires me to care more than I do to dislike lots of posts, and I honestly don't know why I don't have more disliked posts. Probably because I don't post much anymore, and this system is very new(and when I do post it in threads like this, ones about soccer, or about other off-topic things).

 

Oh I agree with that completely!! I have no interest in my posts being liked by some of the morons at this forum, but that wasn't what you said. If it were, I would have been in total agreement with you from the very beginning.

 

For this system to be useful, it must be based on users exhibiting some integrity & self-control of their partisan beliefs concerning political postings.

I've been away for the past 3 months, but can see this system running amuck in the Religion section by the 'militants;' for consistently over the years this section regularly degrades into a cesspool anyway, and I dont plan on frequenting it anymore because of the uncivil, hit jobs; and so the new system wont be a problem for me in that regard.

Hopefully, (as I mentioned in an earlier post # 92) this system wont degrade into Jr. HS trashing, altho I'm sure some uncontrolled users will abuse it, but may provide some applicable feedback to the value of posts that have merit.

 

"Personal Responsibility" is certainly not the only factor here, much less "what it comes down to". Were that the issue, you would not need rules, or Moderation.

This feature is a mistake IMMHO, and others, for reasons we have listed. As I pointed out earlier, many sites deliberately exclude it, or have had it and removed it. In fact, none of the major sites that I frequent have such .... by their experience-based choice.

OBTW, why is it that the unwashed masses have to "rethink it" ? Did we not think it well enough to begin with ?

 

There is some 'scant' accountability to giving Dislikes...the box on the right upper corner tells the tale,



altho somewhat indirectly, only if investigating a users 'relative integrity' of how many they 'award'..I would personally say that the more Dislikes given out, the lower the user's personal integrity...instead of responding to the post, they prefer to 'cheap shot' it, which I see as cowardly...thus, their dirty laundry is available for viewing.