hospital nurse found dead - shame on us !!!

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  1. slipperyfish

    slipperyfish Well-Known Member

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    Cats I can't believe that I am about to say this....... But I agree. Lol.

    It seems we have created yet another blight on modern society, and that is taking pleasure from someone elses discomfort. Our humour these days seems to be heading down the macabre road of finding laughter at someone elses personal expense.

    although I do not think that this prank call was the main reason for this tragedy it certainly would not of helped. I think this hospital is claiming purity and innocence in regard to these horrible events, but i think they are trying to hide something. They were too quick to lay full blame at the radio, and very quick in issuing a statement that no action was taken on their part.

    Do we all really think that this hospital did nothing in regards to discipline. I mean one of the most protected families on earth have chosen them for their hospital and a serious breach has occurred and they simply laughed it off !!

    I don't think so.
     
  2. ThirdTerm

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    A suicide note has reportedly been found confirming that the registered nurse, who transferred a prank call to Kate Middleton's private carer, did take her own life days after being tricked by the two DJs. Perhaps the nurse had a different sense of obligation to serve the royals impeccably because she came from India just a decade ago to join the NHS, confusing the British Royal Family with the maharajas and a British nurse could have been able to laugh it off as a joke but the parent company of the 2DayFM radio show is donating $500,000 to a memorial fund set up by the hospital to make amends with the victim's family.
     
  3. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Without the unexpected suicide of the nurse, the prank played by the radio jocks was low key and completely without malice, not really very funny, but not nasty. The suicide sholud be looked upon as what it was, a tragic waste of a productive life. If we ever become browbeaten to the point of being unable to have a little joke, we might as well all suicide, we aren`t all robots.
     
  4. Peter Dow

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    It is absurd that the DJs' radio station are paying compensation when the fault is with the kingdom for having royals, and the royal couple for using that hospital and the hospital for employing that nurse in a role she was not suitable for.


    If anyone should pay up compensation it is Prince William (Duke of Cambridge) who should sell all his wedding presents and pay the proceeds to the family of the nurse and donate his civil list payments he has received as a married man to the family of the nurse. (Then Prince William should go into exile and never come back to Britain)
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    Do you honestly think that when the "block dog" bites you are in a normal or reasonable frame of mind?
     
  6. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    No it was the radio station and as has been pointed out this was a sick pregnant girl - it would not matter if it were Angelina Jollee or Natalie Portman or anyone of thousands of celebrities - the "prank" was wrong. Media should not EVER ring hospitals pretending to be relatives
     
  7. mister magoo

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    Im still waiting for the media to interview the programme co-ordinator at the radio station to see what he/she has to say...
    Of course he/she will be protected by Management and the two djs who made the call will be the scapegoats and probably
    lose their jobs...its the programme co-ordinators job to ensure that the tape of the prank call is played back to the receiver
    before the call is broadcast...obviously it wasnt...hence the payment of $500,000 by the station...or should I say probably paid by
    an insurance company...as an incentive for the family of the deceased not to commence civil action against the radio station...
    hhhmmm...I wonder....
     
  8. dudeman

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    Shame on her. Her selfishness resulted in the loss of two jobs in Australia. In the absence of job loss, I would be neutral on the concept of suicide.
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    You know I am closer than I have ever been to launching a personal attack of gigantic viciousness for such a callous reply

    Learn a bit about the "black dog" before you make such inane comments
    http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au
     
  10. culldav

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    There are two lines of thought:

    First. Each nurse would have been properly trained in the correct protocols to follow concerning contact with the Queens and her family. The Queen would not have to phone a hospital switch-board and inquire about her daughter-in-law, she would have had Kate’s number to ring her directly - or transferred to her directly. The nurse was obviously mentally unstable, and in a job well outside her experience.

    Secondly. “shock-jocks” as they are now called have taken the joke and once harmless prank well over the line, and its time that kind of senseless humour was dropped from radio stations. If they cannot make money, besides embarrassing and humiliating people on radio, then its time to give the game away.

    No one really knows what the long-term psychological impact will be on that immature 14 year old who got bullied by that moron Sandilands into disclosing she had an abortion on public radio.
     
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    So launch it. Remove the vulgarity and insults and go for it. How can a person influence another to commit suicide? Another liberal attempt at control and censorship?
     
  12. Bowerbird

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    It's early hours of the morning - you have been working all night you have 5 other jobs to do at this moment and are distracted so you do the wrong thing at the wrong time. it happens - and it would be devastating to know that there are a lot of people like yourself making this sort of judgement on you.
     
  13. dudeman

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    As an American, even I can tell the difference between you wad English and Australians. A person would have to be really drunk, stupid or foreign to not know the difference. Why put a foreigner on "queen duty"?
     
  14. Bowerbird

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    Because she was a good nurse. Probably usually very precise in her care with high personal standards - which is why a "mistake" like this would have hit her very very hard
     
  15. slipperyfish

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    The problem with this thread is that it is all full of presumptions.

    We presume she was a good nurse.
    We presume she was tired and overworked.
    We presume the hospital hierachy never disiplined her.
    We presume, presume, presume......

    The biggest preumption is that we presume she killed herself because of a prank call .

    Presumptions can be dangerous and misleading.

    Perhaps the content of her note will tell us more about this poor womens battle with sanity. That way then we can finally put presumptions to sleep.
     
  16. RightToLife

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    the only person who is responsible for her death is herself period. prank callers are in no way shape or form responsible. this is obviously a blown out of the water liberal conspiracy used to push their own agenda on us (like the treyvon martin shooting)

    and eventually that agenda is the limit of free speech.
     
  17. Bowerbird

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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!!

    That is like saying that the gunman is not responsible for the direction of the bullet

    Making someone else feel humiliated to that extent (and it was not helped by social media) was inexcusable

    and BTW - Australia does not have a "bill of rights" so no "right to free speech"
     
  18. RightToLife

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    seriously?? playing a joke is equivalent to shooting a gun??? this dumb (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) killed herself. that was 100% her choice to do no one forced her or anything. she is 100% responsible.
     
  19. Peter Dow

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    The DJ's radio station is only responsible for the hoax call - not the suicide - but the compensation due for wasting staff time answering the hoax call is only the wages of the staff for their wasted time spent answering the phone. Now I don't have time to work that out but let's say that is maybe £5 per minute for the staff time spent answering the hoax call - so that is maybe a total compensation owed by the radio station to the hospital of £50 for 10 minutes of wasted hospital staff time is all that is owed by the station to the hospital.

    The suicide does not reasonably follow from a hoax call to a competently run hospital.

    So the cost of compensating the suicide falls on those responsible for the suicide - not on those responsible for the hoax call.

    The responsibility for the suicide is purely :-


    • the fault of the kingdom for having royals in the first place when by rights the country should be a republic with no royals, no royal pregnancies and no interest in hoax calls
    • the fault of the royal couple for choosing that hospital when they could have gone somewhere which didn't employ suicidal nurses
    • the fault of the hospital for employing a suicidal nurse in a role she was not fit for.
    • OK it is mostly the fault of the nurse who topped herself but she can't pay her own family compensation now she is dead

    Bowerbird you are conflating the issue of the hoax call - which was a minor waste of money - with the suicide which was a major cost but not a direct result of the hoax call per se.
     
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    It is absurd to paint the $500,000 as compensation for a breach of broadcasting permission rights. If they phoned you up, broadcast you without your permission, do you think you'd get $500,000 off them?

    Get real. They are paying $500,000 because they have been guilt-tripped by the kingdom into thinking they are somehow to blame for this suicide.

    You Aussies need to stiffen up your backbone if you want to become a republican country of your own one day.
     
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    Shame on the hospital administrators who didn't set clear rules for protecting the privacy of the Royal Family!
     
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    You sound like a real wanker......
     
  23. HonestJoe

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    It shouldn't have anything to do with it involving the Royal Family. All patients deserve to have their personal information kept personal and indeed there are legal obligations to that end on all involved (which, not withstanding cross-border complications, should include the Radio Station).
     
  24. Peter Dow

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    Yes it's not just my own backbone I can stiffen. So do you Aussie men have stiffness problems in that department too? If so I can't think why; your ladies are very sexy. Maybe too much of that beer you keep trying to sell us?
     
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    OK then but if the issue is a breach of privacy then the injured party would be the patient - Kate - and she might have a claim against the hospital whom the nurses were working for.

    But that privacy issue is nothing to do with the $500,000 from the DJ's radio station to the family of the suicide nurse. It's an exchange of a huge amount of cash between two different parties altogether and it is a flow from a radio station who played a part in the disclosure of the information to the family of a nurse who played a part in the disclosure of the information. The dead nurse did not suffer a loss of her private medical information (neither did her family) and neither would be due any compensation for "loss of privacy".

    Sure if Kate wants to make a claim against the hospital, the estate of the dead nurse, the living nurse who also spoke on the phone and the radio station for her loss of privacy then I suppose she could make a claim for that. However, Kate hasn't made a claim about her loss of privacy. The $500,000 isn't for Kate, she didn't ask for it. The royals are playing cool on the fact of the loss of privacy so as not to further embarrass the hospital staff - maybe in case another is tempted to top themselves?

    Also Kate and the royal family would have a (*)(*)(*)(*) cheek stirring the whole country up (and much of the rest of the world too) about their royal wedding, marriage and pregnancy, causing the suicide of a nurse then whining about their loss of private information. Goodness me, these royals live deliberately in the gold-fish bowl of the media and use the TV and radio at every opportunity to promote themselves.

    Privacy is a minor issue here at most and it pales into insignificance next to the suicide and the $500,000 is not for meant as compensation over disclosure of private information.

    Again, the $500,000 is because the kingdom has guilt-tripped the radio station into feeling guilty for the suicide of the nurse which they were not responsible for and have no cause to compensate the family of the nurse over.
     

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