An Arab perspective on the world

Surely all Muslims are pieceful---once they kill off all the non-believers, taking off pieces of their bodies like heads and arms, then there will be no one left alive to fight.

The religion of peace.

 

What a strange reply to an atheist, I just wondered what made a modern christian, has god brought out a new version of the bible?

 

Really? And how much experience do you have around Muslims or in the Arab world?

 

Do you think there is a difference between how the Christians of the world have acted versus the Muslims of the world over the last 100 years?

Have the Christians done any significant fighting for mostly religious purposes anytime in the last 400 years?

Atheists have acted far worse than even the Muslims over the last 100 years. All real Commies are atheists and look at the horrors atheists have done:

7 million killed in the Ukrainian Holodomor

1 million died from poor conditions in Soviet Gulags by 1953.

40 million killed in the Great Leap Forward Genocide in 1960's Communist China.

2 million or 1/4 the population of Cambodia killed by Commie Pol Pot.

Atheists even make the Taliban and ISIS look good.

 

Its too late for a two state solution.. How many Palestinians would you forcibly expel from a new one state to make the Israelis happy?

 

I would only keep the Arabs who are currently citizens, and only after they sign pledge of allegiance. Others can stay as legal none citizens, but only if they pledge allegiance.

 

I think you would have to forcibly deport 250,000 and sterilize the rest to arrive at an acceptable demographic for the Israelis.

Where to ship them? Where do you live?

 

I already told you Arab citizens will stay as is with limited voting rights, the other Arabs can stay as none citizens, so no sterilization will be needed, nor deportation unless the Arabs continue their ridiculous opposition. If they continue to terrorize Israelis, then war will be only option which will end badly for the Arabs. Where to ship those who do not pledge allegiance? I dunno Sinai, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon....same places as before.

 

Certainly if you are going to apply the same causality to Christians as you apply to atheists, Christians have killed many more than Muslims and even atheists

You can start with 60million for WW2 including 6Million Jews murdered by Christians.

But you still seem unable to tell me what a modern christian is, fascinating as your little flights of fancy are!

 

I only really worked around one (ex?) Muslim who fled Iran after the Shah left. I work with them here and there in the US.

Why would I do something stupid like go anywhere where Muslims are in abundance---especially anywhere in Mid East?

I may as well ask you, have you base jumped or parachuted off a cliff?

 

No, the Prophet didn't "steal" Christian ideas, as Islam rejects that God alright has a son.

Many prophets went to war (including Moses), so you can quit the hypocrisy. There is nothing inherently evil was out war.

 

I must have hit a nerve. Come now, your Commie darlings have only been around about 100 years in any force---but I'll go as far as 230 years if you include the Commie-like Jacobians. Look at the horror they did in such a short time. Pathetic, really.

Christians have been around 2,000 years, and have been in significant numbers for 1,500 years.

1648 was the last time Christians really fought each other most mostly religious purposes during the 30 Years War.

As far a true, modern practicing Christian at their highest level:

Evangelicalism, Evangelical Christianity, or Evangelical Protestantism [a] is a worldwide, transdenominational movement within Protestant Christianity maintaining that the essence of the gospel consists in the doctrine of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ's atonement.

Haven't seen large groups of them beheading infidels lately while reading the teachings of Christ have you?

 

Strange I do not mention anything about communism in my reply, just pointing out the millions killed by Christians including their genocide of the Jews.

Still I cannot comment on happy clappy evangelicals, I have never met one, still not sure what makes them modern though.

 

You mean like an apartheid state with two tiers of citizenship.

To Syria, Jordan and Sinai.... oh yeah.. The Zionists remain on the dole and continue to want others to clean up their messes.

 

I haven't seen any Bible readings from Hitler in any of his speeches about Jews. The Nazis were a political group---not a Christian group. Were the troops from India all Christians as well from WW2? How about the Chinese Nationalists---were they Christians or not? WW2 was not a war for Chritianity, sorry to let you know.

My point is that the largest group of Atheists continues to be Commies and their secular socialist fellow-travelers.

Not all atheists are communists, but all communists are atheists.

 

Always happy to educate someone,

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.

Germany started WW2 and the majority of combatants were Christians. Using your causality for atheism and the deaths you mentioned in your earlier reply, then the same causality aplies to Christianity. You cannot have it both ways!

 

We weren't discussing parachutes or sky diving.. We were discussing Muslims..

So you knew one Iranian.. and you read Jihad Watch.. They don't know any Muslims either.

 

I'll give you half a credit point. Hitler was a politician like other pretend Christians such as Barak Obama.

In reality, Hitler was anti-Christian, and an atheist, like you. He has scores of quotes in stark contrast to some of his "Christian" statements:

That's why I've always kept the Party aloof from religious questions. I've thus prevented my Catholic and Protestant supporters from forming groups against one another, and inadvertently knocking each other out with the Bible and the Sprinkler. So we never became involved with these Churches' forms of worship. And if that has momentarily made my task a little more difficult, at least I've never run the risk of carrying grist to my opponents' mill. The help we would have provisionally obtained from a concordat would have quickly become a burden on us. In any case, the main thing is to be clever in this matter and not to look for a struggle where it can be avoided.

Being weighed down by a superstitious past, men are afraid of things that can't, or can't yet, be explained-that is to say, of the unknown. If anyone has needs of a metaphysical nature, I can't satisfy them with the Party's programme. Time will go by until the moment when science can answer all the questions.

So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. A slow death has something comforting about The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that's left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.

http://www.davnet.org/kevin/articles/table.html

Of course to the liberal, WW 2 was only about Hitler and the Jews---nothing else, except maybe a few events like D-Day happened of any substance. Certainly, the vast scale of communist atrocities in WW 2 and the aftermath are rarely spoken of in Lib-Com circles.

 

So what! I don't do risky things, like skydiving, or visiting Arab nations.

And what percent of the UK, Western Europe or America do YOU want to be Muslim?

 

Well, it's not my fault if he stole it inaccurately.

 

Your presumption I'm an atheist is unjustified.
As to not reading the Old Testament why then do today's Christians not only carry that evil tome around bound together with the New Testament but use it as proof the coming of Christ was prophesied of old? It would be comforting however to hear all today's christians reject creationism because they reject that entire ancient collections of myths. I don't see it happening.
Evangelical Christian church leaders killing mass groups of non-Christians in the name of Jesus? Where did I assert that?

 

Sorry I cannot even give you a half credit, the one thing Hitler was absolutely not was a Atheist, no-one who has any knowledge of Hitler would make such a claim. He always thought of himself as a man of destiny. But of course it is no matter, because all of those german soldiers were very good little Christians and all the people who hated the Jews so much took it all from the anti-semitism of the church. Make no mistake about it, the holocaust was as Christian as the Spanish Inquisition!

As for Lib-Com again I cannot really say but,

Most communists would say that WW2 began in 1937 in China, I guess Liberals would talk about FDR, Brits would talk about the loss of the Empire and a Brit socialist about the welfare state. So a fail there aswell I am afraid.

 

You should take some good Bible study classes. The more you know, the more you can grow.

Anyway, so many are confused about ceremonial and cultural laws that are no longer binding. However, moral laws are still binding: don't rape people, don't murder someone in cold blood, don't curse the Holy Ghost, don't steal, don't cheat on your spouse, etc. Old Testament moral laws are still valid (the punishments, are left to one's government), and the history and prophecy are interesting---But the New Testament alone is enough.

 

I guess Hitler did a good job convincing you of his faith. Didn't he say something about a "big lie?"

 

And I guess Jesus stole Jewish beliefs, along with all the prophets who came after Abraham.