Alabama Election Results: Doug Jones Defeats Roy Moore in U.S. Senate Race

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Yep second place. He should be proud. LOL
     
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    ...in a state where Trump won by 29% and where the State hasn't elected a democrat to the Senate in roughly 25 years.

    That is epic levels of bad.
     
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    Once they get there, they are all natives and to try excuse one or the other is just being dishonest.
     
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    I do not disagree with that
     
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    Specifically, they incompetently assumed the government would police bond rating agencies to guard against fraud. It's not unlike consumers expecting the government will work to assure our food supply is safe. Yet we wash our vegetables to keep our families safe in case the government is unable to stop something bad from getting on or in our food.

    As I said, who were the hacks buying this garbage for cities, pensions funds, etc? And who in the city government were making sure the people hired to manage the public's money were exercising good oversight? Finally, what professional in their right mind would buy bottom trench commercial paper in a wildly inflated real estate market with many, many news reports of fraudulent mortgage loans, ARMs that reset after a couple of years to much higher rates, and so on?
     
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    You're kidding--right? Bottom trench packaged up mortgages rated as AAA? Widespread mortgage fraud?

    https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/mortgage-fraud-2006

    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-widespread-mortgage-fraud-toppled-the-housing-bubble-2010-5

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/06/business/06mortgage.html

    https://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-...omy+of+a+Financial+Collapse#reader_B004ZMVX14
     
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    Dule....
     
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  9. Bluesguy

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    That's not a given he can sue he was a public official running for a public office. The fact remains the evidence cannot be taken as credulous anymore so he has no real reason to sue and that is your problem.
     
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    I have no problem at all. If its not credible then its not credible. I am still unclear about what you want done at this point. Are you just looking to complain?
     
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    I see--declare victory in some sort of p*ssing contest you imagine you're involved in and move on.

    I'm interested in having an intelligent conversation with people I can take seriously.
     
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    Which of the ratings systems is a government agency?
     
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    Probably the same way Trump supporters can claim to be religious and have morals
     
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    I don’t have to read their books, I have been part of the charter planning program. And what looks on paper is not what is happening,
    Vouchers are not going to match the $25,000+ tutotion of private school. And it’s bullshit that if I try to school is failing it will be shut down. Some will and some won’t I have seen some of the best shut down and I have seen some of the worst remain. As with everything politics is involved
     
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    “We” know she didn’t forge it. Why isn’t he suing for defamation?
     
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    The evidence is incredulous only to that small minority of people who will defend a child molester
     
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    And you think that’s good in the reddest state?terrible showing
     
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    Touche :)
     
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    That's absurd. ^^
     
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    They trusted the government regulations some of which came from Europe.
     
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    Your links and the dates in which they were published make my case.


    Here is a Reading list for you - The top 8 are in my unofficial order of importance:

    Engineering the Financial Crisis - Friedman & Kraus - 2011

    Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac - McDonald - 2012

    Senseless Panic - William Isaac - 2010

    Bad History, Worse Policy - Peter Wallison - 2013

    “Government Housing Policies in the Lead-up to the Financial Crisis: A Forensic Study” - Pinto
    http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploa...-to-the-Financial-Crisis-Word-2003-2.5.11.pdf


    What Caused the Financial Crisis - Edited by Friedman - 2011

    Reckless Endangerment - Morgenson - 2011

    Bull by the Horns - Sheila Bair - 2012

    All the Devils are Here - McLean - 2010

    The Housing Boom and Bust - Dr. Thomas Sowell - 2009

    Getting Off Track - Taylor - 2009

    Bail Out Nation - Ritholtz - 2009

    The Great American Bank Robbery - Sperry - 2011

    Shakedown - Malanga - 2010

    A Capitalism for the People - Zingales - 2012Over half of all house price estimators said they were pressured by mortgage brokers to jack up estimates.

    Debacle - Norquist - 2012

    America's Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb - Ferrara - 2011
     
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    I've presented much more information which shows that your "Blame Bush" explanations don't hold water.
     
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    All three were declared NRSRO's by the SEC in 1975.
     
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    Private schools operating on $15K per year vouchers will start up. Low income families will have choices of where to send their kids - public, charter, or private.
     
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    You really think they are going to gI’ve them a $15,000 voucher? I don’t know what planet you live on. What about the private schools that cost anywhere between 25,000 and $40,000? So basically what you are saying is that you want public schools to not exist
     

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