Can Liz Cheney survive the Pro Trump Republicans??

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  1. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    I think that to be fair..BOTH parties LIE. Trump made an OBVIOUS profession o fit. Biden is just more evasive in how he does it.

    It seems that the country is more important than a party. or even a person.
     
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    Just to be fair, will you list the stupid hateful things Biden has done so far?

    Trump paid Pfizer well before their vaccine was approved by the way. And had it not lived up to expectations?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read how intolerant Democrats are over a woman who cost herself her leadership position. She does not have Trump to kick around this time.
     
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    the only thing I have seen so far is his stupid goal to ban menthol cigarettes as he thinks blacks prefer them, I called that racist

    wish you guys called Trump out when he did stupid things

    your turn, will you list the stupid hateful things Trump has done?
     
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    It really has been whirlwind day. Watching and listening to the GQP has given me vertigo They have changed their position to the point it is hard to know what in heck they stand for I could hardly believe my ears when I heard some of their comments. They h must think that the population is really stupid , not to see how dysfunctional they are.
     
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    these politicians are part of a cult, they don't care what anyone else thinks, only the cult leader
     
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    Toxic people usually don't know they're toxic. It's part of the condition.

    For me, it feels like it did when Trump was in office. I would wake up and immediately cringe at what he might have tweeted in the midnight hour. I finally got a respite when Biden was inaugurated but it was short-lived because his groupies are following his lead. I've stopped trying to make sense of it because I just end up with a migraine. It's almost like they think we have the 3-second memory of a goldfish or something. Just unreal.
     
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    I've also switched parties several times. Voted for Reagan and then George HW Bush twice. Didn't vote for Bill Clinton, but a third Party. Swung back to Democrats but don't remember voting for Gore, so may have been a third party as well. Voted for Kerry, then Obama twice, H. Clinton and Biden. I liked Reagan, but came to believe that politicians are a lot like generals fighting the last war. Reaganomics was better suited for post-WWII U.S. It was already pretty much a global economy by his time and 'trickle down" inevitably "tricked out." I almost voted for Romney over Obama for Obama's second term, but decided, as with Reagan, Romney was fighting the last war, economically and didn't see the impact of the Internet. We were badly neglecting domestic infrastructure in exchange for the role of world policeman. When Romney turned that way late in the election and took Shelton Adelson's money and then went with his Adelson-appointed campaign foreign advisor's take on Benghazi, I voted for Obama. Presidential choices have been increasingly the lesser of two evils over my voting lifetime, which started with LBJ (supported JFK, but was too young to vote for him).

    Incidentally, although not jewish, I am a supporter of Israel, originally for Netanyahu, but not lately. The Israeli situation is complex. Oh yeah, began my voting history in college and as a Democratic precinct chairperson. Consider myself to be hawkish on foreign policy and center-liberal domestically, favoring a mixed, but capitalist economy. Consider today's major problem (aside from the environment, pandemic, etc) as the clash between technology-pushed globalism and the outmoded national economic model. But, open to anyone who can make that work and still maintain democratic institutions. Oh yeah...have also worked on both sides of labor...both for management and organized labor.
     
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    I know what you mean.

    What is so concerning is that all this drama can leave the nation more vulnerable The divisions are obvious now.......and no one is interested in bridging them. or even trying.
     
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    Yes, I agree. I think it looks awful on the international stage and it worsens every day.
     
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    I disagree with her reasoning.

    I am not ready to go so far as to argue she is not being genuine, and that is not her true belief, but in my opinion her reasoning on this is totally not logical.

    If anything, this ruckus indicates she has been watching too much CNN. The Party is probably better off without her.

    She's supposedly "conservative", but if she can be swayed to believe this, what else can she be swayed to believe?
     
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    How did he "follow China with the virus?"
     
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    How very telling that you can only name Trump, who isn't even a Republican politician anymore! Anyone else? And, even Trump didn't say that Biden is "not the President!" Again, name ONE SINGLE Republican politician who says that Biden is NOT the President, or even that Biden lost the election! You won't be able to! :roflol:
     
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    Yes, because truth, facts and integrity have ALOT of value in the current Democratic Party! :roflol:

    Name ONE SINGLE GOP member who has said that Trump won the 2020 election. You won't be able to!

    Meanwhile, a BUNCH of Democrats have bought into the conspiracy theories of systemic racism and widespread voter suppression, including the conspiracy theory that the Georgian government conspired to suppress the black vote with the new voter law this year, calling it "JIM CROW! :roflol:

    So are conspiracy theories perfectly okay with you if it's Democrats doing it?

    Yes, because absolutely nothing that the Democrats do has "the flavor of authoritarianism!" :roflol:

    Anyone who doesn't fight day in, and day out for the Republican agenda, keeping the focus on the radical Democrat agenda, but instead focused on Trump. And this would particularly apply to any Republican in a leadership position like Cheney.

    Right now? A bunch of insane, far left radicals. That's who.
     
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    Is Pelosi regarded as "fringe left?"
     
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    Well, given that all Democratic members of the House voted for SIX TRILLION DOLLARS worth of spending this year,
    all of those 94 New Democrat Coalition members voted for it too! How very fiscally conservative! How very fiscally responsible! :roflol:
     
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    What's your point?
     
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    You call the party "GQP" when only one single member has promoted Q theories! :roflol:
     
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    How do you know that many support Biden's policies on the recovery and infrastructure?

    Who?
     
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    No, Trumpism WON an election, after two MISERABLE failures by the utterly PATHETIC and USELESS McCain and Romney in 2008 and 2012!
     
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    Why do you mention what Paul said?

    What about the tax cut bill? And would Democrats have REDUCED taxes, including import taxes?
    I've yet to hear you say one bad word against the Democrats. And you wonder why people mistake you for a partisan Democrat.

    Quote them saying that it was based on the 'stolen elections.' You won't be able to! :roflol:
     
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    @Pro_Line_FL, do you have anything against the Biden agenda? Surely you must share at least SOME common ground with Republicans on the Biden agenda!
     
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    I strongly opposed the shameful "impeachment" of Donald Trump, but I opposed firing the impeachers either.
    I the struggle agains far-left extremists/ Fascists we need unity of all patriotic Americans - no matter, whether traditional Republicans, Trump supporters, Neo-Conservatives, independents or moderate Democrats!

    Divided we fall and America will fall either!
     
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    You are totally unable to support your claim that it was "for refusing the 'mark of the beast' aka lie about the election results." That's unsurprising! :roflol:
     
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    Wouldn't 'firing' imply that she has been kicked of the party?
     

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