Focus your anger.

It is not Jews attacking Palestinians, it is people in the Israeli government who happen to be Jewish that are doing so. If you go to Israel you will find many, probably most, of the people are against what is going on there. Just as you would find most Palestinians want nothing but peace without occupation.
If you wish to protest protest Netanyahu who once out of power goes back to facing a court trial against him that is on hold. I would hesitate to call him Jewish, perhaps by blood but certainly not by actions.

The inverse is also true. Supporting Netanyahu is not supporting Jews for the exact same reasons.
An interesting pre war article.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...atement-occupation-israel-palestine-netanyahu

 

Very true, and something we should never lose sight of. The same goes for Hamas and the Palestinians. It is not Palestinians or Muslims that attacked Israel, it was Hamas, a twisted hate filled organization born in response to decades of oppression. Their cause may be just, but their tactics and goals are not.

The same goes for our own government. We are 'lead' by turds who tend to choose profit and power over humanity, regardless of which party is in power at the moment.

People should always be looked at individually, never as part of a larger group.

 

Both points are good, but unfortunately the collective consciousness also does install and support the leaders. There's a karmic influence that all Israelis and Palestinians must face to an extent.

 

Is it okay if I just reserve the right not to be angry?

 

Yes. It is the same failing that is at the core of racism, sexism, and other bigotries. Group based prejudice is both irrational and immoral, but unfortunately extremely common and easy to fall prey to. Americans are the worst at it, so sheltered and privileged and arrogant (pun intended; see what I just did?).

 

Sorry, but you are way off on your characterization of Americans. There is far more tolerance here than in the Middle East where the racial and religious hatred that spews from the Iranian leadership is more virulent than even that of the Klu Klux Klan in the 1800s and 19 teens and twenties when it had a big revival here. The Klan wanted Blacks to be subservient and willing to work to serve them, but they didn’t want them all dead.

When are your government is painting “Death to the Jews” on your missiles, state sponsored racism is very obvious.

 

Um... So you didn't see what I just did a demonstration of? Read what's in the parentheses? Read the OP? The topic isn't state sponsored anything.

 

Disappointed in my fellow humans, but not angry...

 

Sorry but your point does not resonate with me. Characterization of Americans as “sheltered, privileged and arrogant” is the crap we hear from the far left, especially far left college students. They are spoiled brats who don’t realize the consequences of their positions if they were to be realized.

As for opening post, the vast majority of Israelis are not opposed to doing away with Hamas, and they are not opposed to responding to attacks from Iranian proxies. Their survival depends on it.

 

Psst that's the point.

 

"It is not Jews attacking Palestinians, it is people in the Israeli government who happen to be Jewish that are doing so."

Wow.... we seem to forget there are hostages and some of those may be Americans... and Hamas hiding behind them.... Talk about "cannot see the forest for the trees"...

I find it strange Americans are ignorant of the fact Hama has been firing rockets indiscriminately into Israel FOR YEARS.... hiding inside schools and hospitals... and then they attack Israel on Oct 7 raping and killing...

 

The opposite is true.

They had peace until Hamas engaged in massacre. Now they protect Hamas. So I disagree with this statement as well.

I wish we had a national leader as strong as him.

Wrong again. And quoting a left wing medium doesn't make it right.

 

The real question of course is how many more times should Israel have to pull their punches and let Hamas live so we can rinse and repeat the same obscenity all over again a few more years down the road. Israel has played this obscene game your way for decades now and we get the same crap every time. The only thing that ever changes is the level of violence and it is never zero. The only thing that is ever going to change this is when Hamas and it's supporters finally get it through their head that violence against israel is not in their best interests. I don't know how much death and destruction that takes but I've a feeling we are about to find out.

 

Whooosh...

I think you missed his point.

 

And kind of illustrated it in the process.

I think it's a point everyone should be able to see, since it can be done to anyone, regardless of political view.

It's wrong to do to individuals, whether based on stereotypes or even if on statistical averages. You aren't the same as me just because we share a skin tone, gender, place of birth, etc. If I do or say something horrible that doesn't mean you should be treated like you must endorse and agree.

That error in thinking is sadly very easy to fall into, is the core of bigotry, and causes all sorts of trouble.

There are plenty of humble peace loving selfless Americans, even given the stereotype I noted above (which was the point of me noting it).

 

A karmic influence? Please explain.

(FYI, I see karma as mumbo jumbo, like all religious beliefs. If there really were such a thing as karma, Trump would be wearing a jumpsuit that matches his makeup, and I would not be too poor to get some much-needed dental work done.)

 

I'm with you there. Israel and it's many Muslim neighbors have never been at peace and likely never will be. I'm old enough to have experienced every damned nuance of this crap (the fighting, the dying, the political grandstanding, the ignorant protests ad infinitum) time after time, so why worry this time? Same **** different day, amiright?

 

You seem to have contradicted your own argument.

"... especially far left college students. They are spoiled brats who don’t realize the consequences of their positions" -- Isn't that the very definition of "sheltered, privileged and arrogant?"

 

Life is too short for me to worry about problems on the other side of the world.... I have other things to worry about like whether we can get to cancer treatment 50 miles each direction this coming week two days in a row.

The dramas and minutiae of my existence and those directly around me are enough to command my attention for the day.

 

See #17. Violence is certainly not new in that region. It will never stop until they wipe each other out, or come close to it. Or until some other power decides enough is enough and nukes the lot of 'em.

 

See #17 and #20.

 

How does me getting angry change anything on the opposite side of the world?

The things that are happening there are going to happen regardless of how I feel about them, now the only difference is they will still be happening but I will have chosen to get my blood pressure elevated by choosing to be angry about something I have absolutely zero control over.

It literally makes 0 sense whatsoever to be angry about it.

I can be angry every night I go to work about having to do my sorry ass coworkers portion of their job because they are too sorry ... I don't even have to turn on the TV and look at the other side of the world to find something to be angry about

 

Sorry to hear that. I'm a two-time cancer survivor myself. Officially hard to kill.

Hopefully, you have coverage for the needed treatment(s). Get well soon.

 

The bottom line is Israel is smack dap in the way of Iranian plans to unite the Arab lands under a single caliphate.
They aren't fighting over oil, gold, or physical things. It is a religious war with a religious goal. We Anglo-Saxons do not understand people who are happy to die in the pursuit of Jews.
We should keep our beak out of it, and support Israel since the opposite party is too far out of our norms.

 

Are you sure?

https://www.jpost.com › israel-hamas-war › article-792001
Most Israelis support Netanyahu's plan for post-war Gaza - poll - The ...
Mar 14, 2024 'Overall, 62% of Israelis support Netanyahu's plan, with 16% having any actual opposition.'