“Speaker Johnson: Border bill is even worse than expected”

If Trump were actually interested in curtailing the increased undocumented immigration attracted to the thriving U.S. economy and consequent employment opportunities in the U.S., he would be supporting the bipartisan legislation to increase border security rather than lying about his fantasy wall.

 

Not true, Covid aided in driving down the numbers but ultimately Trump did not end border crossings nor attain a real handle on who was crossing

 

True, none of it would have limited any plan he installed if he became President, in fact, with approval coming thru legislation, he could have used it to toughen any approach he took

Ultimately, the GOP does not want border reform, all the talk about the border threatening our national security was BS, they want an open border even more than some Democrats do

 

Balderdash.. The numbers were down well before COVID. I literally posted those numbers going back to 2017. The numbers invading our Southern border are staggeringly unprecedented. 4 MILLION for FY2024 and even if the sham border bill being proposed, that will still mean nearly 2 million people would be allowed, unvetted and unabated, into this nation with at least a 7 years to appear summons...

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

 

The border being "open" is partisan hype, of course. More money, personnel, and resources are being allocated to border security and the interdiction of migrants than ever before. Even that is inadequate as the incentive to access opportunities in the thriving economy drives more and more.

The immediate reality is that Republicans could increase border security under the terms of bipartisan legislation, but Trump does not want to see progress on that front for obvious, self-serving reasons.

 

They are not refugees they are asylum seekers and current law, also says they are to be detained for that time. So the administration is breaking the law by not detaining them.

 

That's weird, I noticed too that the border crisis was simply Fox News spin and a right wing talking point, until the day before yesterday, and now it's become a full blown crisis that the GOP is responsible for!

Lot's of laughs...

 

True, and Dems incentivize illegal immigration.

 

They rejected Trumps plan until he expressed the consequences of them not agreeing to do so. They dont have to worry about that with Biden.

 

LOL so you honestly believe what you say. So they're somehow going get all those awaiting a hearing, we're backed up 7 years today, then the new illegals crossing will get a hearing on site lol. Then you're assuming no way we'll average 4,999 as if the cartels are so dumb they won't figure out the numbers game, are you serious.

This isn't a border security bill; this is an immigration bill that allows up to 2mil people into our country a year. In other words, status quo under Biden! Fact Biden could shut the border down today legally.

Got to love the left the last 3 years, we don't have a border problem, the border is secure, we have no choice but let 2m in, the border is an issue and fixing it is republicans' fault right before an election, oh it's trumps fault as if we can't see his numbers.

 

Oh, yea we have already seen Trump's border numbers and Biden surpassing his average in the first 2 months of this year. The liar is fairly obvious.

 

Now, McConnell is also blocking the deal. Why? All because Trump gave marching orders that the deal is dead, to help him win the election in November.

I just heard an interview with Sinema on NPR on the way home. She couldn't bring herself to admit that Trump killed the deal. Even though she is independent, she is afraid to lose votes form the MAGA crowd. For them, compromise is a dirty word, especially if it could help Democrats, even if it would be good for America.

 

I see lot of confusion about the enforcement of laws, because posters think its a crime to not enforce 100% of laws. Not enforcing a certain law <> breaking the law. Likewise, prosecutors enjoy prosecutorial discretion when they decide to enforce or not enforce laws. Its impossible for executive branch to enforce every law in the books, given funding and resource issues. With the asylum seekers, - there simply isn't enough room to detain them all.

Either way, it looks like this bill is dead, and the law makers are embracing status quo.

 

No the reality is you democrats are not giving enough given the political situation you're in. You're attempting to negotiate from a position of strength when you're in a position of weakness and then crying because we aren't giving you what you want.

That's rich coming from a bunch of lefties who we have been BEGGING to help with the border for decades.

How come yall didn't help when we begged you to help for years on end?

 

There are far more effective ways to deal with the situation. Taking away their ability to provide for themselves being first and foremost. Taking away their anchor babies and increasing incarceration for those who commit crime as illegals.

 

Numbers may have decreased but they were still high, and the proposal would better control those entering and it is hard to understand how any attempt to address the border would be blanketly refused

 

I was in elementary school so — again — I don’t know who you are talking to.

I am talking about what’s happening, right now. If you have to go back 3 decades to make a point while ignoring what’s happening now — you likely don’t have one.

 

They want status quo, even if Trump is elected, and as I just noted, to immediately reject any bipartisan attempt to address the border is nuts

 

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Trump had raised unemployment in the U.S. to 6.7% by the time he was booted out of office.

It has been lowered to 3.7% under the current administration.

Wages have risen as well.

A thriving economy attracts families desperate for work.

353,000 jobs were created in January, 14.8 million so far under Biden.

 

Of course. Who wants to kill the goose laying the golden eggs? What would they run on if abortion and immigration is taken away, and they already lost abortion.

 

Because this is a numbers game. Would you be good if the number was 500 a day? Why not? 2m people entering our country a year is NOT SUSTAINABLE. No country would agree to this except the wacky left.

 

No, what I said was accurate. I made a general statement that was 100% accurate.

Voting against a bill doesn't mean you are against everything that was in it. Sorry, but that's accurate. It's a logical fallacy to claim otherwise which is what the poster did that I responded to.

 

Yea, let's all ignore covid and the governments shutting everything down. Not relevant I guess

 

Or taking credit fit. “Republican plan stage one” instead of torpedoing the little progress made