A little perspective on the chance that you will be a victim

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  1. rahl

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    except you know perfectly well this is not true.
     
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    Your self-delusion is not my problem. Continue your gibbering if you wish.
     
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    Example:

    Alcohol;

    There are people, and I know a few, they are falling down drunk much of the time, some get into automobile accidents or fall down and get hurt.

    What is the solution ?
    Ban alcohol ?
    It did not work the first time, alcohol sales are regulated yet people still have problems.

    I like an ale or beer or wine with supper, why should I have to suffer ?
     
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    The claim was indeed made by yourself that the general welfare clause authorizes government to carry out whatever it wishes, while denying that its authority is limited exclusively to taxation purposes.
     
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    Then let us attempt a different route of address.

    Fluorine. Ununniium. Chromium. Krypton. Oxygen. Francium. Fluorine. Aluminum. Niobium. Dubnium. Darmstadtium. Iridium. Einstienium. Yitrium. Osmium. Uranium. Iodine. Germanium. Neodymium. Oganesson. Radium. Acintium. Nobelium. Thorium. Polonium. Iridium. Europium. Cobalt. Erbium. Osmium. Fermium. Strontium. Hassium. Iodine. Terbium.
     
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    no, that's your strawman
     
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    It was the argument presented by yourself. Observe.

     
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    yep, and nowhere in any of those quotes do I say what you claimed I did. Thus...............strawman
     
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    It does indeed demonstrate that it was claimed by yourself, that the general welfare clause government to exercise whatever authority it deems itself fit to.
     
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    nope, as it is a strawman. I did not say what you claimed I did.
     
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    The actual evidence proves otherwise. Be silent.
     
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    actually, the evidence shows you made **** up, and pretended I said it. You directly quoted me NOT saying what you claimed I did. Hence..............strawman.
     
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    The claim made by yourself was that the general welfare clause authorized actions that had absolutely nothing to do with taxation, when the general welfare clause applies exclusively to matters of taxation and nothing else. Therefore the claim against yourself is factually correct.
     
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    nope, as you have moved the goalposts now. Your original claim was a strawman. And no, the general welfare is not EXCLUSIVELY about taxation. It is also about spending.
     
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    Which has nothing to do whatsoever with implementing firearm-related restrictions.
     
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    of course it does
     
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    Thus demonstrating the claim presented against yourself is correct.
     
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    nope, as you directly quoted me NOT saying what you claimed I did.
     
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    A great many things have been said by yourself. But absolutely none of them have any basis in fact, or even basic truth.
     
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    you of course know this is false. everything I've stated is demonstrably correct.
     
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    If it were demonstrably correct, it would have actually been proven as such by yourself long ago. Yet none of the posts made by yourself contains anything beyond the mere assertion of yourself.
     
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    It was proven long ago, and you know that.
     
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    Such is not known because such is not, and never has been, the case with yourself. The constant, constant denials on the part of yourself do nothing to change the fact that the positions presented by yourself are not supported by either established case law, or even basic reality. Not even the laws of physics supports the positions of yourself.
     
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    You know this is a lie.
     
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    Pray tell how so?
     

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