June 11, 2021 Breaking News: WARSAW, POLAND -- Polish prosecutors are investigating an apparent mass burial site revealed this month near the area of the former Nazi German death camp of Auschwitz. A local resident spotted some 12 human skulls and many bones in the bank of the Sola river, running through the Polish southern town of Oswiecim, when the water level was very low, the Onet portal said Friday. Police and prosecutors are investigating whether the remains might have a link to the former death camp and the state National Remembrance Institute, which investigates World War II and communist-era crimes, has been notified. Read full article here: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/probe-into-remains-found-near-site-of-former-auschwitz-camp-1.5466213 ---- That's amazing! I would have thought they combed the area most thoroughly over the last 75 or so years. Probably more will be found in that area, they wouldn't have buried just 12 people at the time. In the end they most likely ran out of coal for the crematoria. Now they will be busy taking the DNA to try to identify the dead, find some family and bury the remains properly in cemetery graves. A sad reminder.
Any trivial search of the web will show well documented gas chambers used by Germany to kill people. You can also find the photographs of the ovens used to burn the victims so as to not require graves. Your claims are ludicrous and seriously offensive.
There is absolutely no evidence that the Germans used homicidal gas chambers to kill anyone. There is no blueprint, work order, instruction manual, contract for construction, photograph or other forms of hard evidence to indicate that anyone was gassed to death in homicidal gas chambers. If "millions of people" were killed in homicidal gas chambers, there would be hundreds of gas chambers as evidence yet not a single one exists or existed. The homicidal gas chamber myth was simply a product of Allied propaganda(1) along with homicidal steam chambers, electrocution chambers(2) and even a human vaporizer (3). Some people are gullible enough to still believe these Holocaust Industry - Allied propaganda myths without daring to think for themselves if they at all credible. Even the most casual student of WW 2 and the holocaust knows that bodies were cremated to prevent the spread of typhus, the primary killer in the German camps and also to prevent the contamination of ground water. This is very basic information. Mass graves were still required for the bones and teeth that remain after cremation yet nowhere near mass graves containing "millions" exist anywhere in locations that were under German control(4) The truth is only offensive to the fraudulent, profit driven Holocaust Industry(5), (6) and the gullible people it has professionally deceived. What is truly offensive is the baseless anti German slander spread by the corrupt, multi-billion dollar Holocaust Industry, its complicit Western MSM and the gullible rubes who parrot its profit driven lies. Fortunately, most of the thinking world rejects the outrageous lies marketed by the greedy and fraudulent Holocaust Industry with younger generations being the most skeptical of its physically impossible and slanderous myths.(7) (1) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED 15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606. (2) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death" https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/ EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED (3) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED (4). "Air Photo Evidence" http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html EXCERPT: The Bottom Line To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED (5) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (6) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED (7). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
Interesting... In the desperate search to find mass graves related to the German run Auschwitz, even remains of Napoleon's army have been found in the area. Even though the Poles killed Jews before, during and after the holocaust,(1) you can be sure that whatever remains are found will be blamed on the Germans. (1) "1946 US report said ‘Poles persecuted the Jews as vigorously as did the Germans’" "Post-war declassified State Department document found long history of Polish anti-Semitism before, during and after Holocaust" https://www.timesofisrael.com/1946-...ed-the-jews-as-vigorously-as-did-the-germans/ EXCERPT "A US State Department report from May 15, 1946, found “evidence that Poles persecuted the Jews as vigorously as did the Germans” during the World War II Nazi occupation of Poland. The declassified report was distributed Thursday by the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the same day that a Polish law making it a crime to accuse the Polish nation of Nazi-era atrocities took effect. Also Thursday, senior Israeli and Polish diplomats met in Jerusalem in a bid to resolve differences over the law." CONTINUED
This is unimaginably disgusting garbage. The haulocaust absolutely did happen and was worse than most realize in terms of numbers killed. That many millions of people don't just move away and never again communicate. And, the equipment that was used is still right there to be viewed. The part about you deniers that I really dond't understand is what benefit you think there is in projecting such a monumentally disgusting conspiracy theory.
Re: Firstly, if you want to discuss this volatile topic, I hope we can do respectfully, honestly and with civility. I have studied this tragic era for decades and over those many years, I have known, lived with and worked with holocaust survivors and WW 2 Veterans from both sides of the conflict. If anything fits the description of a "conspiracy theory", it is the common holocaust story that has been poured into gullible heads by MSM for decades. I want to make it perfectly clear that rejecting the standard holocaust narrative has absolutely nothing to do with anti Semitism and / or Neo Nazism. It is simply an attempt to look at WW 2 and the holocaust rationally, honestly and objectively. Secondly, I, like most people around the world who reject the standard holocaust narrative (SHN) do not deny that the holocaust happened. Yes, Gypsies, Communists, resistance fighters, Jews and other perceived threats to National Socialist Germany were arrested and place in work / internment camps much like the Japanese-Americans were after Pearl Harbor. Jews were among those perceived threats because 80% - 85% of Russia's Communist leadership was Jewish and Western Jews declared a global, economic war on Germany(1). Jews, therefore, were not arrested for being Jewish but, like the Japanese in America, they were a perceived threat to Germany. If Jews were persecuted because they were Jewish, there would not have been Jews who were high ranking Nazi Party members(2) and 150,000 Jews would not have fought in Hitler's military with some rising to the highest ranks and some earning Germany's highest military honors(3) Re: In rough figures, there were never more than 4.5 million Jews under German control at any time yet 4.3 million Jews have applied to the post war German government for reparations. Additionally, Jewish sources reveal that the world's Jewish community grew by about 4 million during the war years(4). The fraudulent, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry (5), (6) whose wealthy, jet setting CEOs cheat deserving holocaust survivors inflate casualty numbers for personal gain and to litter the planet with grisly yet profitable holocaust theme parks. Don't you think that Holocaust Industry CEOs who are dishonest enough to cheat holocaust survivors would lie to gullible Westerners to keep the $ Billions coming in and the MSM lies coming out? I don't know what "equipment" you mean but there are no homicidal gas chambers that exist or ever existed.. The only gas chambers that existed were for defumigating old blankets, clothes etc to attempt to stop the spread of typhus which was the primary means of death(7) I don't dispute that conditions in the German run camps were miserable especially toward the end of the war when Allied destruction of German infrastructure made it impossible to supply the work camps with food and medicine but most of what Westerners "know" from MSM is grotesque Hollywood propaganda that is the work of Billy Wilder, Steven Spielberg and other movie makers who worked with America's propaganda ministry (OWI, Office of War Information) ( Again, I have absolutely no use for anti Semitism or Neo Nazism. Since the victors write the history, I feel that the Germans have already paid dearly and been unjustly slandered for many crimes they did not commit. I look forward to your thoughts. Thanks, (1) "Full text of "Jews Declare War On Germany 1933" https://archive.org/stream/JewsDecl...304/Jews declare war on Germany 1933_djvu.txt EXCERPT "Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the "New Germany" at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime."CONTINUED (2) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED (3) “Hitler’s Jewish Army” http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/ EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval. In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos). So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED (4). "Was there Really a Holocaust?" https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED (5) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (6) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED (7) “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas” https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/ ( "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps" https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/ EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war. But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED
Thank you, dear Grau, for such a great rebuttal. You are the one person on this entire forum who has the knowledge, patience, dedication and therefore the privilege to stand up for the truth of WWII and the German people! From the bottom of a grateful heart I thank and cherish you! You stand like a beacon among humanity in this corrupt time of human existence.
I don't see the holocaust as an attack on the German people. Humans are all totally capable of atrocity. What the holocaust means is that this is something we need to be aware of and to defend against - here in the USA, in Gaza, in parts of China or anywhere else.
CLARIFICATION: When I wrote "...Jews, therefore, were not arrested for being Jewish but, like the Japanese in America, they were a perceived threat to Germany.", I was unclear. Jews who were members of the Communist Party, resistance groups etc could be and were arrested. I simply don't know what percentage of Jews were able to circulate in public without facing arrest and suspect that it varied from country to country. It is known that Hitler had several Jewish friends(1) including a young Jewish "pen pal" who shared his birthday(2). As far as I know Hitler's friends as well as other Jewish friends of high ranking officials were spared arrest. I believe it was Hermann Goering who said "I decide who is a Jew and who is not." Thanks, (1) “5 Jews Hitler Actually Liked” https://historyofyesterday.com/5-jews-hitler-actually-liked-c702217e1aa5 EXCERPT “Surprisingly, during this time in his life, Hitler also had extremely good relationships with Jewish people. At his house in Vienna, almost all of his friends were Jewish, with Josef Neumann being the closest. And when Hitler took over Germany, he spared some of his old Jewish friends, kept some in his party, and even formed new friendships.” CONTINUED (2) "Remarkable tale of Hitler's young Jewish friend" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46192941 EXCERPT "According to the auction website, Rosa and her mother had joined the crowds outside Hitler's Alpine retreat Berghof in 1933 on his birthday. It is thought that when he discovered Rosa had the same birthday, he invited Rosa and her mother Karoline up to the house - where these photographs were taken. Not long afterwards, it was discovered that Karoline's mother had been Jewish, making Rosa Jewish in the eyes of the Nazi state. Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES Image captionHitler continued the friendship despite knowing her Jewish heritage But this did not dissuade Hitler from carrying on his friendship with girl, to whom he had sent a signed copy of the photograph." CONTINUED
Spared arrest ... for what? It's well known that the holocaust did not just exterminate millions of Jews. It also included large numbers of other ethnicities rounded up and slaughtered for reasons of race and ethnicity. Are you suggesting that Goering claimed they were Jews? That's not even 1 in a million.
Of course, the holocaust was not against the German people!!!! In the contrary, the German people have been blamed that the holocaust happened against the Jews. At least that's the way I understand it. It is the German people who are the ones who pay for generation after generation endlessly reparations to the Jewish people, even to those traumatized by the stories their grandparents tell them. The Germans have paid enough now, any more is greed! Here you can read in detail what Germany has paid and still is paying: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-extends-holocaust-compensation-to-include-survivor-spouses/a-49438399 Has America ever paid for their "holocausts", like Vietnam and so on? I haven't heard, but they have been very helpful in making sure others do: "The US, too, has supported reparations as a form of restorative justice. After World War II, it supported Jewish victims of the Holocaust in their demands for reparations from Germany and Austria. As recently as 2016, the US Department of State helped Holocaust survivors access the payment owed to them by a French railways company that was an accomplice in deportations." https://qz.com/1569005/has-america-paid-reparations/
When I was in kindergarten, a family of Jews lived across the street from us. They had been liberated from one of the German extermination camps at the end of the war. They were essentially refugees - they had nothing. It was 10 years after the end of the war, but their path from the concentration camp to the west coast of the US was no picnic. They didn't have a record player. My father was Dutch. His relatives hid a family of Jews in a compartment in their family home as Nazis hunted for Jews. My father would welcome this Jewish family to our home to play records of family members who were accomplished musicians - their family members who were in the same concentration camp, but were exterminated by the Nazis before the Germans abandoned the camps. I won't forget their grief.
I meant that recognizing that the holocaust was real is not an attack on the German people. I'm certainly not interested in Germans paying more than they already have. But, the fact of the holocaust does have to be remembered - NOT because of Germany, and not because of Jews, but because of the necessity of a full understanding of human behavior. I wonder if we ever learned anything at all from our experiences in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and the rest.
Auschwitz crematoria didn't need much coal. Only for heating up. After that, the corpses themselves were the fuel for burning subsequent corpses. Don't let the revisionists (Holocaust deniers) fool you!
I appreciate the fact that you recognize that any ethnic group, nationality & religious group has the capacity to do great evil but I, like much of the world, have become weary of seeing only the Germans relentlessly demonized over the grossly exaggerated holocaust story by Western MSM. Over the previous pages of this thread, I have already shown that that the SHN (standard holocaust narrative) has been grossly exaggerated with the Germans always portrayed as robotic sadists, the Allies portrayed as virtuous heroes and Jews portrayed as noble & pitiable victims. That, in a nutshell is the fodder that constantly flows from Hollywood so relentlessly that that many gullible individuals frequently mistake transparent holocaustian propaganda for fact. Much to your credit, you seem to grasp the fact that no single nationality, ethnic or religious group is exclusively good or evil, however, because of the overwhelming influence of the Holocaust Industry - Lobby, many people remain completely unaware of the tragedies that preceded and followed the holocaust such as the Holodomor in which Stalin's Jews played a significant roll(1) thus causing Germany to fear them. Regrettably, America's Holocaust Industry - Lobby is using its significant influence to place SHN indoctrination(2) above the teaching of history's other numerous mass tragedies so that few if any will learn about Ginrikh Yagota, Mao, Pol Pot and similar individuals. If the Holocaust Industry - Lobby gets its way, American students will only receive a fraudulent narrative about what the "evil Germans" did to the "poor Jews" rather than getting a broader perspective about history's many tragic events. It is this relentless demonization of all Germans to the exclusion of almost all others by Western MSM that @Jazz & I find dishonest and regrettable. Finally, it looks like while we may differ over the details concerning the holocaust we clearly agree that anything like it could happen anywhere and great care should be taken to avoid its recurrence in any form. (1) "Stalin's Jews" "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish" https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED (2) "On Remembrance Day, US House overwhelmingly passes Holocaust education bill" https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-re...erwhelmingly-passes-holocaust-education-bill/ EXCERPT "The legislation was widely supported by the organized American Jewish community. “We are pleased that the House has taken action today, on International Holocaust Remembrance Day, to ensure that the lessons of the Holocaust will be passed from one generation to the next,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, head of the Anti-Defamation League. “We look forward to this law’s swift passage and to working closely with teachers and districts across the country to ensure that Holocaust education is uniform and consistent across the country.”CONTINUED
A more appropriate warning would be: "Don't be deceived by the Holocaust Industry's physically impossible myths." The idea that water burns is commonly accepted as nonsense. It is also a commonly accepted fact that the human body is 75% - 80% water Therefore, it is physically impossible for human bodies to burn on their own. Debunking physically impossible Holocaust Industry myths is that simple. The reason that the minions of the Holocaust Industry fabricated the myth that water soaked human bodies burn without fuel is because the documents at Auschwitz captured by the Communists show that only enough fuel to burn about 70,000 bodies was ever delivered to Auschwitz. Therefore, to get to the inflated number of 1.1 million deaths and subsequent crude cremations, the "scholars" in the Holocaust Industry had to make the physically impossible claim that water soaked human bodies are a fuel source in order to account for the numerical difference and the absence of human remains. Even though Auschwitz's Death Ledger(1) states that about 69,000 (68,864) people died at Auschwitz of all causes, the Holocaust Industry claims that 1.1 million people were murdered at Auschwitz via "gas chambers" and etc even though there is absolutely nothing to indicate that homicidal gas chambers ever existed at Auschwitz and not one single autopsy revealed death by gas. So, who are we to believe? Are we to believe a Holocaust Industry that is so self serving and dishonest that it cheats deserving holocaust survivors and numerous governments(2), (3)? OR Should we believe the authentic documents that have remained hidden until 1989? (1) "Did German Homicidal Gas Chambers Exist?" http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/12/1/7200 EXCERPT "The death-registry volumes recorded the deaths of approximately 69,000 Auschwitz inmates, of whom approximately 30,000 were Jewish. Most of the deaths were caused by disease, although some death certificates recorded executions by shooting or hanging. None of the death certificates recorded death by gassing."CONTINUED (2) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
Water evaporates. The fuel is human fat. You can even use it to power your car: https://petroleumservicecompany.com/blog/diesel-human-fat-fuel-car/
O.k., I know what you mean, but it is the German people who get punished and incarcerated for even talking or discussing the holocaust. Just last night I read again of 92 yr. old Mrs. Ursula Haverbeck, how she has been slapped with heavy fines on top of being incarcerated... all for asking where are the 6 million corpses? She gets no answer. Truth is, nobody seems to know or even cares, be they German or Jewish authorities. I can honestly say, my parents had no foggy idea either of the ongoing "holocaust" during the war. We knew there were "Konzertlager", even I was told about it when I turned 10 in the Winter of 1945. A few kids from our village reached the age of getting enrolled into the Hitler Jugend, for me that was the BDM = Bund der Deutschen Maedchen. The official told us this was a must; if we refused, then our parents would have to go to jail. I was quite scared and agitated when I got home and excitedly told my parents about the jail part, which actually meant Concentration Camp, or slangily "Konzertlager", which in my childish mind meant a place where they make music all day!! Seriously, that's what I thought! Anyway, my parents just smiled and didn't seem to be worried... I would go in April and join the group. As it turned out, there was nobody there when my mother and I got there. There is nothing in my memory that my parents ever talked about the Jews being gassed. Yes, they were put into concentration camps, that I faintly remember. I also remember some time after the war, that the banker, the jeweler and a merchant were actually Jews, had briefly left during the war and were now all back in their businesses. They had survived the schreckliche holocaust! My parents had no beef against the Jews. My mother liked to go to the clothes merchant and bring him some eggs and a piece of ham. In return he "found" a coat for me or some material for sewing. Everything was rationed during the war, and I was a growing child and needed something to wear. When I was 15, my Dad took me to the Jewish jeweler... I was allowed to select a ring for myself! WOW! This was after the holocaust and the jeweler was minding his store as before. There was no talk about "the holocaust". I never heard the word while I still lived in Germany. Of course, these little snippets of memory are no evidence, the holocaust didn't happen the way the Jews say it did... with millions "slaughtered"! Since I haven't seen with my own eyes of what went on in those concentration camps, I remain sitting on the fence, waiting for enlightenment from above. In the meantime I search the internet and lo and behold what should I find today? Evidence that Roosevelt betrayed his own people and plotted together with Churchill how to get into the war!! Read here: The Roosevelt Legacy and The Kent Case http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p173_Kent.html
I've heard that the German government doesn't put up with denying the holocaust. I haven't heard that mentioning it is an issue. The "where are the corpses" comment was just plain ignorant, obviously. Yes, there was a significant effort to help Jews escape German occupied territory. I'm not surprised that your parents didn't hate Jews. During the war years it was incredibly dangerous for Germans to oppose Nazi dictates such as the rounding up of Jews. So, there surely were large numbers, quite possibly a majority of Germans who were not in favor of that policy. Yes. Roosevelt recognized the danger the Nazi war machine posed to the entire western world - as well as Russia, as it turned out. He made that decision before the US was fully turned around on the threat of Nazism. Jews have had it rough in America at times - even now in some cases.
I have family branches coming from Germany and the Netherlands. The war was hell - as I'm sure it always is.
Yes, the water in a human body does evaporate during a cremation but each body required about 220 pounds(1) of coke/coal for even a crude cremation that took about 4 - 6 hours(1) per person (2 - 2.5 hours in modern muffles, aka cremation ovens). Your contention that human bodies burn on their own without fuel is simply another desperate falsehood manufactured by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(2), (3) to account for the shortage of coal/coke at Auschwitz and elsewhere. Re: Almost anything can be made as fuel for a car with a significant amount of additional chemical additives. Please don't dump water in your gas tank and expect anything other than a costly repair bill. (1) “The Problem of Cremator Hours and Incineration Time” http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p219_Buchner.html EXCERPTS: “3. Multiple Charge With the above in mind, one can also immediately understand why multiple charge -- 2 or 3 corpses stacked together as claimed in the Holocaust theory (see for example F. Müller[9] page 17) -- will not produce shorter incineration times. Nobody knew anymore how long a cremation took back then but the 4 to 6 hours for coal-fired cremators appeared acceptable to today's crews. 4. Incineration Time In 1946 the incineration time in coal-fired cremators was about 4 to 6 hours. [6] The variation is caused by different physical sizes of the corpses but also by the condition of the tissue. 7. Some Other Technical Points But if one assumes 100 kg (220 lb) of coal per corpse (which may be insufficient) even 250,000 cremations would have required 25,000 tons. There are no storage or processing facilities known for larger amounts of fuel. One would expect at least railway tracks to have been extended directly up to the cremators. There were none.[25] There are not even simple mechanical unloading facilities (ramps or chutes for example) known either. Distributed over 20 months in Auschwitz II, 25,000 tons would have required more than 41 tons of manual handling of coal per day." CONTINUED (2) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
Re: In any legitimate Western court of law since the time of the Magna Carta, a body is usually always required as proof of guilt. Why do you consider the need to produce at least some of the body/bodies "just plain ignorant" especially since there are so many cases in which there are no bodies/remains where millions were claimed to have been murdered. The Nuremberg "Trial" was itself such an egregious, Soviet style war crime that it was widely condemned by all ethical jurists even remotely connected. Even Eisenhower's more ethical brother condemned the "Trials" as "...a black page in the history of the world"(1) US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone referred to the "trials" as a "...high grade lynching party" and a "...sanctimonious fraud"(2) The fact remains that thousands of innocent German POWs were tortured into making false confessions & subsequently murdered simply because of fraudulent eyewitness hearsay. Nowhere near the number of millions of bodies claimed to have been victims of mass murder have been found either through all Air Photos(3) or ground examinations(4), (5). If you were on trial for murder of even mass murder wouldn't you expect those charging you to have some evidence other than vengeful hearsay from professional witnesses many of whom were paid? Thanks, (1) "President Eisenhower’s Brother, An Attorney, Condemned The Nuremberg & Eichmann Trials" http://www.renegadetribune.com/president-eisenhowers-brother-attorney-condemned-nuremberg-eichmann-trials/ QUOTE: "I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world…I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground, but rested their position on the fact that in their opinion, the parties convicted were guilty…" Edgar N. Eisenhower, American attorney: Brother of President Dwight D. Eisenhower (2) "The Greatest Swindle of All Time" http://chemtrailsgeelong.com/holohoax.html QUOTE "Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg......I hate to see the pretence that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas." - US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone (3) "Air Photo Evidence" http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html EXCERPT "The Bottom Line To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED (4) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust” https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363 EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves. (5) "Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves" https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php EXCERPT "The team carefully examined the entire Treblinka II site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, and carried out control examinations of the surrounding area. They found no soil disturbance consistent with the burial of hundreds of thousands of bodies, or even evidence that the ground had ever been disturbed. In addition, Krege and his team found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes, or wood ashes." CONTINUED
Yes, but I suspect that far more people have heard of Hitler and know of his associates and German run camps than have heard of Stalin, his associates and Stalin's gulags. I think that you'll have to admit that Hitler, Goering, Eichmann, Himmler and the holocaust have been far more prominent and vehemently demonized throughout Western MSM & Hollywood than Stalin, Ginrikh Yagota, Leonid Reichman and the gulags. Additionally, only the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(1), (2) has succeeded in extorting around 100 billion dollars from Germany, other countries and corporations around the world. How much have the survivors of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc managed to receive? I don't think that there's any doubt that Hollywood has cranked out more melodramatic holocaust fodder than all the other mass tragedies combined. Consequently, there have been far more holocaust frauds(3), (4) than any other variety. 1)"17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (2)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED (3) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war. No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out. Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED (4) “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust” http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html EXCERPTS: • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED
