AFGHANISTAN - GOING, GOING ... GONE!

This seems a bit different to me.

Immigration: Biden formally ends 'remain in Mexico' policy ...
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Jun 1, 2021Under Biden's new policy, he's safe in the US 03:49 (CNN) The Biden administration formally ended the Trump-era policy of returning asylum seekers to Mexico until their court dates in the United...

That doesn't seem different to you?

If it's the exact same policies, then why were border crossings at a record low under Trump, and now they're at record highs under Biden?

What changed?

 

I asked a question maybe you missed? What training did the 911 hijackers get in Afghanistan? Flight training? How to use a box cutter?

 

It clearly would serve a purpose NOW, right

 

Incredibly hypocritical comment.

Considering that it was Trump who withdrew almost all the US troops.

Who sat down last November with the Taliban to negotiate?

There were only 2500 troops left when Biden was sworn in.

He was forced to send 4000 more to secure the Kabul airport....

 

Screw them. They need to just be left in the dark ages and monitored. Remotely bomb the crap out of them when they get out of line but otherwise let them wallow in their ignorance.

 

I guess you missed it when the presidents of Mexico and Guatemala said Biden set expectations the illegals would be welcomed. How did he do that? By raising his hand with all the other democrats calling for free healthcare for illegals. Legitimizing illegals by calling them refugees, or even global warming refugees. By putting them in fancy hotels and paying for their lawyers. And how his party members want to abolish ICE, not build a wall, want to tear down existing barriers, and how they create sanctuary cities.

The left rolled out the red carpet for them and they came even though they were told this is a fundamentally racist country that hates and oppresses brown people.

 

I haven't seen a post of yours, before this (though it isn't a large number of them, that I've read), with which I didn't disagree. But I have to admit, you make a very good case, here. While I had been glad that we were getting out, I must concede that this exit was poorly-managed. I was especially disappointed by our not making the safe passage of our Afghan allies, a priority.

While it was fmr. President Trump, who started the clock ticking on this fiasco, I do not use that as an excuse, for Biden. He was, presumably, too concerned with the politics of putting the brakes on our departure. But, with everything else with which he'd had to deal, Biden clearly could not give this the attention that it deserved. Perhaps he would have been better-served to have assigned watch over this process to Harris, rather than putting the VP in charge of the dire situation at our southern border, which has no quick fixes. But we are hearing that intelligence sources have been warning of this outcome (just not quite this quickly) and even ex-members of the military, now in Congress, have been urging the President to do more to orchestrate the extraction of our Afghan partners. I wish I knew what were the mechanics that prevented our forces & commanders on the ground, from taking any of the common-sense steps, which were neglected.

This is admittedly-- even among Congressional Democrats-- a failure on Biden's part. I'd love to see him do something to at least set right our fulfilling our commitment to leave no one behind, among our Afghan helpers, but I don't know how, at this point, he could even do that (without a recommitment of even more than the 6,000 troops we now are going to have in-country, including the add'l 1000, being directed today, to join the cleanup force).

Surveying the result, it is a shame that there weren't voices in Congress making the intelligent case that you have laid out here. From the news coverage I recall seeing, it seems that the opposition Party to the Democratic majorities, was putting all its energies into manufacturing discord, by hyping "cultural" issues, like Transexual bathrooms and sports, asexualized Mr. Potato Head, and the retiring of racially-dated works by Dr. Seuss. If the Republicans could get news coverage for those issues, it's hard to believe they were presenting your arguments, but just being ignored by the news media. I say this, again, not to siphon off any of the blame that belongs at the top, with Biden. I am only including this last point to underline that our withdrawal from Afghanistan was written in the cards, with both public sentiment and, as a result, at least in part, the position of most in Congress, regardless of Party.


P.S.-- Biden scheduled to speak on this today, at 3:45 PM, I think.

 

Those 2500 troops kept things quiet until now. What changed? You can try to pin this on Trump all you want but the entire planet disagrees with you, even CNN.

 

Just be more people and stuff we’d have to scramble to get out.

 

What changed is they know we’re leaving

 

you asked a question and then immediately answered it for your own purposes. That’s not cool.

the only reason I would be okay with a complete troop withdrawal is if the Afghan government was capable of standing on its own and they would be friendly to us with treaties as it relates to our geopolitical and military interests in that part of the world. In other words we can jump right back in there if we ever have to.

That goes for Trump too. A complete withdrawal has to make sense to US interests. That is paramount, because as things were, maintaining ourselves there was completely fine. Zero rush to do things stupidly, but politicians being politicians making promises to get themselves elected, we are getting what we got.

Imo i would not leave. Strategically it makes far too much sense to maintain our minimal presence there rather than make political symbolism when it’s a “war” that we haven’t even fought for 6 years

 

Because the opinion of the world and CNN is important to you now?

At what point did 'the stable genius' foresee that the Afghan army would crumble before the Taliban?

 

That’s hardly a defense for Biden.

 

The Biden Administration are a bunch of light weight cowards. Their ridiculous pull out had no elements of stability. No phased milestones that had to be met like Trump had set up. It was just... LATER! Good Luck with that!

The Democrats running this shitshow are morons... but what do we expect from the Party of Defund the Police and Open the Borders.

 

Our presence in Afghanistan was not an occupation. It was a support and training role that had a benefit of keeping the Taliban in hiding.

It is helpful if American's would understand the situation before they offer an opinion that doesn't align with fact.

 

those are some very interesting points that I don’t think many have considered, me included

 

Of course it did so how will this improve things what is the purpose here that is so much better and please be specific.

 

So we have to stay forever so they keep hiding? That’s ridiculous

 

The purpose is to leave. It’ll be better because our boys won’t be getting blown up there for absolutely no reason.

 

Flags of America's surrender are now on sale.

50 percent more off for the Democrats.

 

Our lads in the military will be issued white flags of surrender to fly at all military installations.

 

Why is that the purpose of that purpose, what purpose does it serve and how are things better and PLEASE BE SPECIFIC not your bromides and platitudes.

 

Biden flat out lied when he claimed the 300,000 forces of Afghanistan would stop the Taliban.

 

I don't know how Osama trained them. Your question is ...stupid really. The guy behind that attack was sheltered and given aid and resources by Afghanistan. And he had training camps there that were put out of business by our soldiers.

 

Biden put the white flag of surrender to good use.