American freedom based on God as monarch

Proof please.

 

RAmen... FSM is the one and only true God

 

Here it is:





Matthew 12:30 ESV / 17 helpful votes
Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

Matthew 6:24 ESV / 10 helpful votes
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

John 14:15 ESV / 9 helpful votes
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

John 3:16 ESV / 6 helpful votes
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Romans 12:9 ESV / 5 helpful votes
Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good.

Luke 16:13 ESV / 5 helpful votes
No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”

Revelation 20:11-15 ESV / 4 helpful votes
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

 

Thank god none of that is real.

 

Well as I understand it, the colonists didn't reject the divine right of kings, just his taxes and imposition of his will without a representative voice.
England had already challenged the idea of à god given right to rule well before the US revolution when in 1642 they had their own civil war and threw out their King Charles I and beheaded him. Oliver Cromwell tried to establish à republic but eventually the throne was restored to Charles II and the UK became a constitutional monarchy. IE a very much limited monarchy with real power to the elected Parliament.
The rejection of the Pope was 100 years previous even to that, during the 16th century reign of Henry VIII and the Reformation when the Church of England was established with the monarch as its head.
I am not sure simply declaring yourself gods representative on earth is quite enough. You need an obediant army and some devices of torture to convince the general public...

 

No but it is pretty intimidating...enough to convince some that it is better to be safe than sorry.

 

Sure, but then wouldn't that be questioning and challenging the divine rule of God? The Biblical God isn't about representation or democracy, he is a dictator. A nominally benevolent dictator but a dictator all the same. That is why so many people claimed (and continue to) that they rule at the behest of God, because "God says so!" is meant to be an unquestionable answer to anything.

Yes, and that is exactly my point. The OP has no more authority to claim Biblical rule over the USA than the King did over England or the Pope did over the Holy Roman Empire.

 

No doubt perfect image of hm

 

Divine right of kings is not a guarantee that the monarch will rule wisely. He is the agent in gods plan for the future. As such it is not for man to challenge the arrival or behaviour of the monarch. Now this is where it gets interesting. The worst sin used to be to déposé the ruler... (Macbeth is all about this) so the other way to do it was to prove he was illegitimate. As a population began to have the courage to challenge the king, by mid 17th century, you begin the progress of the ideas of democracy and eventually civil wars,/ révolutions. We are now back to the culmination of the ideas and the philosophical consolidation of the Enlightenment which was the cradle of constitutions and human rights we still share today.
It all comes from the decoupling of royalty and God. When we dared to question. As you suggested.

 

Matt 16:23 (for one) But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.” and Matt 12:30 "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."

 

Seems to me the more you scatter the more productive you are.
I can imagine à cult leader saying this to frightened members and make them behave.

 

I guess YOU can call Jesus a cult leader, and he does not lead your cult... does He?

 

I don't belong to à cult.
I prefer to think for myself.

 

Well stated.

 

It is good to know that God is the source of human rights.
So let's not have anymore discrimination against others of à different faith , ethnicity , gender , gender identity political persuasion, or those from à different country.
Sounds to me like God would vote Democrat.
Actually the philosophers of the Enlightenment are the source of human rights. But we could have a tortuous discussion about whether they thought God initiated their thoughts creating the Enlightenment which did, of course, reduce gods influence in human affairs.
And back then of course human rights were restricted to the white successful men. We have recognised slowly that others too are human.

 

Agreed ...but which one? For example, I say the one that wants me to always pay my taxes and always obey the government is a false god, one created by man for men who seek only to control their fellow man. While God is King, we should not allow a god to be empowered as king on earth, or it will surely be a false facsimile of God that ends up ruling.

 

I've seen your post.. popular culture and leftism is where you developed YOUR thinking. You think like every other lefty on this board.

 

All religion is bull*hit, and its adherent's are just gullible morons. IMO.

 

Also Thomas Paine ...

 

And also from the mind of Thomas Paine ...

 

Well when leftist tendances become à cult I'll give your post à thought.
And it is not true that those on the left and right have hive minds connected to à matrix, I think you aren't listening hard enough.

 

No one I know of is trying to establish a religion here by law.

 

Which is why a number of Republicans seem to be supporting a return to a monarchy ( Trump as Regent for God).