Are you safe? Where are you? Are you alone? Guys I'm so f****g scared...

News flash. I am local to one of the worst HS shootings and know numerous who died. But I also know statistics so I can’t be fooled who the REAL perps are or where the shootings are occurring most. YOU only know what the MSM reports. And they are very disingenuous.

Legal gun owners aren’t committing most of the shootings. Shootings won’t stop until PEOPLE are under control. Guns are HARMLESS unless you pull the trigger.

ANOTHER NEWS FLASH. Mass shootings don’t occur when the shooter knows they can be shot back. GUN FREE zones and cities with the harshest gun laws are the most dangerous. Shocker.

 

How would you do that?

 

Just a short lesson on logic. Just because you hear about the same event one thousand times does not mean that the same event occurred one thousand times.

 

Why blame Republicans? We support the constitutional right to keep and bear arms which was established by our Founding Fathers, not to murder innocent people. You support religious liberty, not to murder innocent people in Gods name. If someone does, are you to blame for supporting religious liberty? Besides, it is obvious that promiscuity, out of wedlock births, and Fatherless homes are turning out the overabundance of violent predators on our nation. And it is common knowledge that the Democrat party is front and center in fostering this trend. So blaming Republicans for Democrats doings is clearly absurd. Democrat DNA is all over it. Republicans also support free speech. But that doesn't make us responsible for all the lies told either. Democrats used to be Americans. Now they have become contrarians who pander, divide, and conquer, for the consolidation of power. Not that Republicans are perfect. But if repentance were the order of the day, nowhere is it more appropriate in application and practice than in the Democrat party. So if you want to fix our nation, fix yourselves.

 

Well said. Another aspect to consider is not only what percentage of people want a change to our gun laws, but where they rank it as a priority. Sadly I am not sure it is a high priority on the right or left. I assume it is more a priority on the left than the right, but either way we the people seem to vote based more upon other priorities.

I am of the mind that if we want a safer society we would vote for those that prioritize it. Sure there are powerful lobbyists like the NRA, but if we the people came together our power would dwarf the power of the NRA. I am on my first book on political science trying to understand our dysfunctional system. I know many on the right are just as disturbed by the mass shootings as you and I are. Yet a loyal republican none the less will vote for team red and the hierarchy of the Republican Party seem out of step with many in their own party on this issue.

In the end few on the right give a damn what a leftist or a moderate like I have to say on the issue. The best the left can do atm is hire smart people to analyze the issue and implement solutions where they have the power to do so. If the left is able to implement effective policies that will blunt the pushback from the right. On the flip side if the left implements ill conceived policies that do nothing or make matters worse, this will be used by the right against the left. My fear is that many on the left want to shoot themselves in the foot with emotion based policies as opposed scientifically sound policies.

 

Too much logic in the final paragraphs. That will be a hard no from progressives.

 

The irony of them hoping for the cops.

 

Have you ever been to anything regarding the NRA? They are a civil rights organization who protect YOUR 2A rights and their agenda is gun safety. Period.

 

Folks, we have laws against rape and women still get raped. We have laws against robbery and people still get robbed. And we have laws against murder and people still get murdered. What law could possibly end gun violence? If all guns were outlawed today, what do you think would happen? We have liberals on this board who own guns and I'm sure they won't be happy and probably won't comply.

Here's how political this gun issue is. Do you folks recall that I was once engaged to a woman who now works for the democrat party of California? A while back someone on this board asked me about that party's position on gun control. When I asked her she could only state CA's position which was pretty harsh, but later on she got back to me about how the party feels about gun control in other states. You would be surprised to know that in red states the democrat position on gun control is far less severe than it is in blue states and she said when you're in politics you have to know your audience.

So there it is, gun control is a political weapon and propaganda item. Guns will never go away so it gives the left something to constantly complain about.

 

Pretty sure immigrants have lower rates of violent crime than non-immigrants.

 

Not that one.

 

400 million guns in the country 40k gun deaths. 80% of those suicides lf the remaining 20% almost all are done by people who cannot legally own a gun due to a previous felony conviction.

If a drill terrorizes you you need psychological help. We went through drills for tornadoes and for nuclear attacks when I was a kid. I don't ever recall anyone being terrorized, mostly we thought cool we get time off from school.

 

According to the leftist anti gun crowd, it's racist to encourage people to be married, and to raise their children to be upright and law abiding. So my Parents are racist because I'm upright and law abiding. There is no moderation or middle ground in leftist reasoning. It leaves us with two option, either a nation of armed murderers or a nation of unarmed murderers. There is no room for an armed, upright, law abiding people in liberal thinking.

 

Some of these millennials didn’t know we hid under desks to protect us from NUCLEAR BLASTS, and they worry about a school shooting which is about the same chance of happening as getting struck by lightning or winning a $billion Mega millions.

God help us if there’s a war because we’re screwed as entire generations we need to fight would sooner curl into balls and suck their thumbs.

 

Whomever wrote that is a moron.

If you don't like crime, demand the Democrats stop letting criminals run free.

 

You’re implying that Republicans and the NRA are responsible for school shootings. Seriously?

Why don’t you go one step further and claim our founding fathers and drafters of the Bill of Rights are responsible?

 

Don’t try to explain statistics to those too pigheaded to accept reality. hehe

 

You can't enforce the laws you have now, what makes you think you're going to enforce new laws?

 

Murder laws are strict, but Democrats don't want to enforce them.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/us/oakland-crime-increase-naacp-residents/index.html

 

Your country hasn't stopped mass shootings. In fact, you've had more mass shootings since the gun ban than before the gun ban.

 

and let's be honest: mass shootings are not what motivates the hard core gun banning left and their desire to disarm honest American citizens

 

How many illegals from places like Venezuela, are pouring into EU countries?

 

They can't put us in concentration camps if we're armed.

 

Change the Constitution. If you think you have the votes, then what are you waiting for?

 

I only think a few of the most malignant gun banners think that way-Bloomberg for example. Most of them just despise a culture that rejects collectivist nanny state dependency and want to stick it to people who don't support perpetual childhood or sucking on the public tit for a lifetime. Plus you have people like the alphabet agenda advocates who see gun owners as opposing their social agenda and thus gun control is adopted as retaliation