at 30, where the hell are single women?

Maybe, though I don't see nearly as many big men as I do women just walking around. I mean I'm no model, but I'm still keeping myself from being two people wide. The beer doesn't help, but the running does. Guess girls are really into abs right now which I'll readily admit I don't have (well I do but there's a bit of a pot belly there). Still, working on it. Unfortunately with the searches at bars, seeing friends, and just general unhappiness brought about by loneliness, the drinking isn't going away anytime soon, and that's not helping the six pack come about.

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Yeah, I don't see how that could possibly be promoted as somehow good. I'm not religious and all but I certainly wouldn't advocate changing (faking) your beliefs just to get laid.

 

How much do you spend hanging around in bars with no women in them?
Call me biased but what eharm found for me is priceless. I owe them half a happy life.
If they happen to find the perfect woman for you will you (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the money
I don't think your an ass for wanting pics, I agree, if there's no pic she's either unattractive or isn't really interested in being there.
The older one gets the less the physical attractiveness becomes and it's more mental compatability but the physical is still there.

 

Why are you stuck on women in their 30's? Lots of younger women around. Not saying that women 30+ aren't great, its just that their aren't many available. Are you looking for someone financially secure in their own right? Thats a high bar, a well off single woman in her 30's has to be a rare thing. Many of them are coping with being divorced, raising children essentially alone, dealing with massive debt and so on.

Move the age bar down about five years and there are more fish in the sea.

If its a self image problem,(you don't want to be the creepy old guy with a young girl), or a fear of being used by a gold digger, or if you are worried about the age difference mattering later in life (A wife ready to travel and you stuck with the colostomy bag in a wheelchair), then what can I tell ya? Get over it, life could end tomorrow or a hundred years from now, enjoy it while it last.

The compatibility thing is there, and if the girl is too young or too young minded it wont work. But with more available you have a better chance of sifting that kind out.

 

join coed athletic and fitness activities/clubs expand your social circle...the women you will meet are there to be fit which is good...or like you looking to meet men...and they have more friends to introduce to you...and getting away from bars/beer will have an effect on your appearance which is a plus...

 

I did that, I met mrs wyly right out of high school, i was 29, a 10 yr gap...it worked out because she's more mature than I am...

When my daughter used the singles web site she was actually looking for an early 30s man, she wanted someone more mature and settled with an established career...she still ended up with someone her own age but he has the maturity she was looking for...and no she's not a gold digger, she has career path that will gives her financial independence...

 

This depends on what you're seeking. Are you seeking a temporary sexual partner or a serious relationship with the ultimate goal being a long-term relationship.

 

I'm Chris Hanson with Dateline MSNBC. Why don't you have a seat right over there.

 

I've had points in my life where I had chances to cheat on my girl because so many opportunities presented themselves, and now, nothing. I got crazy and put an ad on Craigslist. The replies I get are so weird I had to make a google voice number to put there to disguise my real one. I put in my ad that I am not interested in girls with boyfriends or girls who are married and I'm not looking for a "texting buddy" that I want to really meet someone, yet I STILL get replies from these people. Why can't they read?

 

Let me guess, you're single now?
I seem to be somehow more attractive now than when I was single. Damned if I know why. Must be the receding hairline.

 

Single as a mofo, bro.

 

Then you should get a girlfriend, so it will be easier to get a g... no wait, that made no sense.

 

Yea, it seems sometimes the people having problems meeting someone put lots of restrictions and barriers on starting relationships.

Thats not to say it isn't hard out there. I have a cousin who works 60 hour weeks and has zero social time. He has been doing it so long that meeting women is a major stress for him, and he freezes up or runs away more often than not.

The way my relationship developed is incredibly similar to yours, but my daughter is pre-teen so I have a few years left to not worry about her relationship choices. Knowing her I am sure she will run the show though, not a submissive bone in her.

peace

 

I'd say go with the church angle. After all, how many church LEADERS actually believe the tripe they are peddling? AND, how many church LEADERS do NOT end up in the sack with one or more of their congregants? It's easy pickings. Just pretend piety.

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Nonsense. That's the reason most ministers got into the business.

 

Ive heard the gym is a real bad place to meet girls. They pretty much dont want to talk when they are there, which makes sense because I remember in the army hatingnhaving to belt out a cadence during a hard run. I may try running some events though once I get back in shape, just gotta stick to the running.

 

I'm not religious but isn't urging a person to be dishonest inside a group then complaining about dishonesty inside that group a little stupid?
And while the OP and you share an ideology I got the impression scamming for sex wasn't exactly what he was looking for. Is dishonesty your best or only method of attracting members of the opposite sex? I can understand your politics better now, thanks.

 

yeah I get all that but you need to live yourself afterwards, I couldn't do it...and if it's a long term relationship you're looking for starting it of with a huge lie isn't a good way to start it, the potenial problems down the road if you have kids can be marriage enders...

 

take it slow in a gym, their primarily there to work out and you need to respect their privacy, but if you give them space they'll eventually ask you to spot for them...and every girl you meet even as a friend is a bonus because they have single friends...

 

Number of things to explain that...when you're married you dont appear needy/desperate, more relaxed, mature, approachable...some women find men more desirable because if another women has you you must be good...some just want noncommittal sex, single men may want more than sex...

I got far more offers of sex after I was married than before, I was in my mid 40s and still getting offers from ladies as young as 20...staying monogamous was tough...

 

I've been married to the same woman for 42 years so my scamming techniques are a little rusty, but if I join a church for sex and get a little religion along the way, who's the loser?

Like I said, it's been a while, but being dishonest is not my best or only method of attracting the opposite sex. I also drive a BMW and have lots of money. Just being honest here.

No, I'm afraid you don't. There is some room for honesty in attracting the opposite sex, if it's convenient. There is no room for honesty in politics. All in all, honesty is way over-rated.

 

I told the OP he oughta GET religion. I didn't tell him to FAKE religion. Where would you rather meet your future wife, at a Bible study or at the bar in TGI Friday's?

 

I have found some good women on it. You can sort by body type. I always select thin and athletic. However eliminating no college and smokers does eliminate quite a few. But saying they are all fat is a huge error.

I am not big on paid dating sites because of how they handle billing issues.

 

GYMs are bad because the girls are there to workout and they are all hot and sweaty. Women don't go out that way on dates, why would they want to meet a stranger smelling or sweating.

 

Bar on TGI Friday....

I met mrs wyly in a bar...on a saturday ...It'll be 32 years this comming august....4 awesome kids later I have no regrets I couldn't have found anyone better...

 

I like hot sweaty fit women, whats the downside to that?...common interests and activities is a good base on which to build a relationship on....

 

I'd go with TGI any day also.