Boat People Part 2

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by Makedde, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. Uncle Meat

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    LOL 'plethora' ...

    "Past figures show that between 70 and 97 per cent of asylum seekers arriving by boat at different times have been found to be refugees and granted protection either in Australia or in another country."

    "According to the Refugee Council of Australia, in 1998–99, approximately 97 per cent of Iraqi and 92 per cent of Afghan applicants (the majority of whom would have arrived by boat) were granted refugee status and given permanent protection visas"


    http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/b...sylumFacts.pdf


    Boat people aren't queue jumpers.

    "The perception of boat people as ‘queue jumpers’ is the most pervasive and flawed discourse shaping public opinion of, and public policy responses to, unauthorised boat arrivals in Australia. This FQI appears to stem from the misinterpretation of the onshore and offshore components of Australia’s refugee program. The policy of successive Australian governments to retain the link between the onshore and offshore components of the refugee program, has served to perpetuate this misinterpretation."

    http://uqrefugeeresearch.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/frequently-quoted-inaccuracy-6-boat-people-are-queue-jumpers/


    Tsk Tsk
     
  2. diligent

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    I am discussing this country's problem.If another country has a similar problem let that country sort it out. What has it got to do with Australia?
     
  3. Uncle Meat

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  4. diligent

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    Of course they are queue jumpers, any person with even one eye closed can see that.And you don't have to Einstein to work that out either.

    There are queues all over the world, full of people trying to barge their way into Western countries so they can suck dry our hard earned Welfare Teat. We are the suckers fior allowing them to barge their way through our flimsy, grossly misnamed, borders
     
  5. Uncle Meat

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    Incorrect.

    I've been through this several times with you and have provided many, many links showing you that they are not queue jumpers.

    You, however, have never provided anything to back up your ridiculous claim that boat people are queue jumpers.

    Stop listening to Andrew Bolt, do some research, and learn some facts.

    You'll thank me in the long run.
     
  6. diligent

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    Is it sufficient to hold down a job or just enough to collect their dole cheques? Imagine how much they would suck off the Government if they have breed a horde of children?
     
  7. diligent

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    It would be better if you took a course in English so you could begin to comprehend teh true meaning of queue jumper.

    Anyone who barges and pushes ahead of those in front of them is a queue jumper, no matter how much you prefer to look the other way and pretend otherwise.
     
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    That's your usual solution to this problem, is it: 'Blame Bolt'. That is a really intelligent answer!
     
  9. diligent

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    So it's Andrew Bolt's fault now is it? Now that's really intelligent, as I always thought that Border protection was thE responsbility of the Australian Federal Government.Oh well! You learn something new every day!
     
  10. Uncle Meat

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    I think Andrew Bolt is the cause of your confusion.

    I don't see any problem in regard to Australia's border protection (as you mentioned in the post above this one).

    You're getting all excited and confusing issues.
     
  11. Uncle Meat

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    That you have an ignorant, bigoted view towards legitimate asylum seekers coming to Australia by boat?

    Yes, it's probably Andrew Bolt's fault that you hold those views.

    Either him, or 60 Minutes, or the Channel 7 News.
     
  12. Uncle Meat

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    Yes.

    And seeing as boat people do not do that, they are not queue jumpers.

    Simple.
     
  13. Makedde

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    Over 90% of them are.
     
  14. Makedde

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    Don't forget the Herald Sun.
     
  15. Makedde

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    The evidence, which has been posted MULTIPLE times says quite clearly, in black and white, that boat people are NOT queue jumpers.
     
  16. ian

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    Refugees are a massive worldwide problem, not just Australia. The small amount of refugees attempting to enter Australia by boat is miniscule compared to other countries. You and others would like to make it appear that the refugees attempting to enter Australia are doing so entirely to live off the Australian welfare system. If that is so true then why arent we getting the millions who seek to enter other countries?
     
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    We are going about it the right way to get those millions right now. We have a weak government, with weak policies.
     
  18. ian

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    The only thing which would bring millions of refugees to Australia is severe civil unrest in Indonesia, which is unlikely.
     
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    Such an amazing comment. I don`t know how to communicate with anyone capable of same.
     
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    I discovered ages ago that below is the normal ratio make-up of do-gooders concerning these criminal country shopper entering Australia

    5% Drugo Greens hippies from the 60’s.
    2% café latte set from the wealthy suburbs taking on the latest ‘fad’ crusade.
    30% make a living off these country shoppers/ solicitors or advocates.

    I have spoken to a lot of very difficult individuals who you wouldn’t classify as being open minded, but once the facts have been presented to them regarding these so-called asylum seekers, they then understand what’s they have been doing is not a “normal course of events”.

    * Passing through 7 countries to get to Australia
    * Australia has embassies in every one of those countries
    * Residing sometimes for years in Indonesia and Malaysia before coming to Australia
    * Goat herders & dirt farmers being chased by their countries military police through 7
    Countries.
    * Illegally hiring people smugglers to illegally smuggle them into another country
    * Paying $10,000 per boat ticket, but cannot afford to pay an extra $100 for a life-vest to
    save your child’s life.


    Every psychologist, psychiatrist and professional I have spoken with all indicate that if an individual is in immediate physical danger they will go to the nearest places or person for help. They don’t run seven blocks for assistance of help; they will to the nearest house.

    Maybe these do-gooders can then rationally explain why these so-called asylum seekers from Iraq & Afghanistan are not going to Russia for assistance and help, but are preferring to TARGET Australia? Russia is only two or three landlocked countries from their own countries.

    Could it be in Russia that the welfare system is not a good and as easy to get, and they are NOT guaranteed at public housing home upon release form detention like they are in Australia?

    These bloody uninvited criminals are guaranteed a public home when released from detention, but Australia has over 150,000 homeless Australians sleeping in parks, and under bridges ever night. What’s wrong with this picture?

    Australians tax payers money going to help criminals and foreigners over our own people!!
     
  21. ian

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    Try thinking and using your basic intelligence. I know its difficult for you.
     
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    These gate crashers have perfectly good identification documentation to use to get on planes and in and out of other countries but when they arrive in Australia it has all mysteriously disappeared.
    Why don't they just fly into Australia, go to the immigrantion dept. and ask for assylum? Something just doesn't add up.
     
  23. diligent

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    Anyone who barges into my house, whilst pushing and shoving aside all those ahead of them, without asking permission to enter my house, will receive,without hesitation, my well heeled boot back to where ever they came from. And if they can't even speak my lingo, they will get an ever bigger shove. And all those who have entered through the back door, and after five years have made no attempt to learn the language of the country which provided them,and their endless congo line of dependents, with endless welfare, will also receive the big black boot back from whence they came.
     
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    People smugglers won't take them unless they destroy their identification.
     
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    This is not just your country. It belongs to 23 million other people, so you are expected to share.
     

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