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  1. asylum attitudes

    asylum attitudes New Member

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    Hey,
    Not sure if you guys would be interested or not but I am currently doing some Psychological research into attitudes towards asylum seekers. If you would like to take part it takes about 10 minutes to do the online survey and the more people that do it the better the results and clearer the conclusions. It doesn't matter what your view is whether it is positive, negative, complex or you are indifferent. You view is valuable. Somne of the questions you might find a bit ambiguous but there are reasons for this that are to do with the nature of the research. If you would like your view to be counted in the study and think it would be fun to see what it is like to be part of Psychological research check out the survey at : http://opinio.online.swin.edu.au/s?s=10008

    Hope you enjoy it and if you would like me to email you a simple summary of the results later in the year throw me an email to asylumattitudes@gmail.com and I will make sure I do!

    Cheers and have fun doing it if you want to!
     
  2. maggie44

    maggie44 Banned

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    I am all for human rights and helping others in need, but when you bite the hand that feeds you, I will bite back, I am talking through personal experience being a social worker and interpreter for immigrants. I wasted so much of my time and energy on these users and got stabbed in the back time and time again. they will use any method possible to get what they want and who cares if you get hurt in the process. Whilst I cannot speak for all of them, the majority are simply worthless and refuse to adapt the australian way of life and call us all infidels and it is their god given right to take from us all that is good for themselves. They get all the privileges of this country once they are in and receive better treatment than a real Australian who has lived here all their life and worked and paid taxes, in fact the real australian gets penalised for doing the right thing, whilst these barbarians bully their way in and demand to take what they think is theirs, we are too complacement about these people and you can NEVER EVER turn your back on them, because you will get stabbed.
     
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    Oxyboy New Member

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    Hey Maggie44, welcome.

    Put the helmet and flack jacket on mate, be prepared to be labeled and hated.

    To most on here all asylum seekers are genuine refugees fleeing murder and rape and we should just let them all in.
     
  4. maggie44

    maggie44 Banned

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    Would you be prepared to let them in your home, would you feed, clothe and take care of their medical bills, would you be ready to give up your bed for them, or in fact anyone else on this forum, I don't know where you people live or even if you had any personal dealings with refugees, so before one can comment on a subject, it is best to be well informed. Assessing refugees can be a hard and harrowing task, genuine or not, this is not the issue, the issue is if you are prepared to make the awful journey across the ocean to start a new life in Australia and forget the pain left behind, then abide by our laws, enjoy the pleasures of life here that were unattainable back home, praise God every day for your blessings. Instead, look what they do once here. My problem is not about whether or not they should be allowed in, yes they should, it is their motive behind it and their actions once here. They will never call Australia home, they bring their backward traditions with them and expect us all to except them but are unwilling to accept us.
    They are the racist, not us. Answer one question, if you burnt one of their flags, what do you think would happen to you?
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    ...the right wingers with brownish tendencies are gaining momentum, beware before it is too late... We have seen it before, haven't we?
    regards
     
  6. Oxyboy

    Oxyboy New Member

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    Just let me grab a tissue *wipe* there you go.
     
  7. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Hello and welcome, Maggie. I hope you don't mind if I take you to the slaughter. ;)

    Your two posts prove otherwise.

    Which makes you an expert, obviously. :rolleyes:

    Then why do the job?

    Funny, I haven't any other social worker complain. Why would that be?

    And yet you do just that:

    You have chosen to speak for all of them. And you also have no evidence at all whether they choose to adapt or not. You are only an interpreter, after all.

    Evidence?

    Evidence?

    Again, evidence?

    With a real knife or a fictional one? And for the forth time, evidence?

    That is not up to me. It is up to the government. Could I expect you to take in a homeless person off the street?

    It seems rather easy. Judge someone before you even know them and jump to conclusion about the things they say.
    Ever thought that perhaps the language barrier may mean they say things differently, and cannot properly express their opinions?


    They do, for the most part.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) God. No one will be thanking God here, they can thank our country for helping them out. God had nothing to do with it.

    Look at what WE do to them once they get here. We lock them up like criminals!

    You say they should be allowed in - I take it you want people in the country who don't respect our country, then?

    They already do, and some have already become citizens.

    Bull (*)(*)(*)(*)ing (*)(*)(*)(*). They do not. And even if they did, as long as they didn't alter our country in any way, I don't have a problem with them continuing with their religion and their customs while here.

    Complete bullcrap. This sounds like something Andrew Bolt would say. Actually, your entire two posts sound like something he'd say.

    We are the racists, and also the idiots because so many Aussies still believe that asylum seeker = illegal immigrant. Shame that so many Australians are too stupid to know the difference!

    Not relevant
     
  8. pollywaffle

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    We now know that these so-called refugees from Afghanistan are not running from trouble, they have plenty of money to pay the people smugglers who tell them to catch a plane to Indonesia, wait there for a boat and destroy their papers. And when their applications were rejected they destroyed part of the centre at Christmas Island and burnt Villawood to the ground and only one in three has a job after five years. And some people try to defend scum like this?
     
  9. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Only one in three has a job after five years? Well, that's not our fault, nor is it their fault, blame the employer!
    Would you prefer to hire a non English speaking person over a person who can speak perfect English?
     
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    pollywaffle New Member

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    You didn't answer my question, a simple yes or no will suffice.
     
  11. Oxyboy

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    Slaughter by dribble.....naaaaaaaasty way to go :(
     
  12. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I will defend them like I defend every other asylum seeker.

    You answer my question - would you prefer to hire a non English speaking person over a person who could speak English and who was born in this country?

    Wait, don't answer, I already know what the answer is...NO.
     
  13. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    Are you suggesting that someone's ability to speak coherent English should not be a consideration for Employers when hiring?
     
  14. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    No necessarily. The person who is better qualified should be the one hired.
    We need to lend more support to asylum seekers by helping them train for jobs and give them some skills and qualifications - it is no surprise that most of them don't have a job after being here a few years. They get no support.
     
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    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    They do get support, but yes it could and should be better and more comprehensive than it is.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm,
    around 200 years ago our anchestor arrived in boats, and it didn't take that long for the Abos to think "Why can't they go back to where they came from?".
    Now, 200 years later we find ourselves in the same position, wishing those in boats back to where they came from (bloody blacks, f...ing Muslims, all terrorists and so on).
    We humans are a weird bunch, always looking for our own good, and very rarely caring about others...
    regards
     
  17. maggie44

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    You must live under a rock if you want evidence from me when it is in the news everyday. Burning a flag is relevant and if you come to Australia and want to call it home, you do not do that. Just because you become an Australian citiizen doesn't make you Australian, in fact if you ask these people what is your nationality, their answer is not, I am Australian. FYI, I am not just an interpreter, I worked very closely with immigration and other departments, both here and overseas, they would say and do anthing to remain here and pledge alliance to Australia but once here, all that changes and their true agenda emerges, but by that time, it's too late to change their status. Language barriers is only a problem if you let it be. There are free english courses for the taking, in fact, there are so many opportunities for unskilled people and help and support if one really wants it. All you have to do is go to Centrelink or any job network and see the dozens of free courses available for these people. Whatever the barrier may be, there is help out there to make the transition an easier one.
     
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    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    So maggie, if being an Australian Citizen doesn't make you an Australian, what does make you Australian?
     
  19. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    No, I want evidence because I have heard, nor seen none of the bullcrap your posts insist has been happening.

    Your job doesn't make you an expert.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    You must be white, and preferably a Christian. Anyone with funny colored skin and a different religion will never be considered Australian.
     
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    The majority are simply worthless? How in hell did you ever become a "social" worker with the lack of compassion you possess? You call them "barbarians"? And you were a social worker? Christ I feel sorry for those poor people having to be on the recieving end of someone as uncompassionate as you.

    As far as stabbing goes... you've just done a splendid job of "stabbing" these people in your post. You are not cut out for social work. Your post shows you greatly lacking in compassion and humanity. Perhaps you made it up about being a social worker. Wouldn't surprise me. Social workers CARE about people. You clearly do not.

    Barbarians, my foot. What a bigoted post.
     
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    Get out from under your rock.

    Italians greeks etc have been in this country as long as many of us.

    Religion? What a load of bollocks.....again.
     
  23. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    They didn't arrive by a boat, did they?
     
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    the first people in australia wore the face tattoo like mike tyson has, it was a warrior tattoo to scare off their enemies.
     
  25. ian

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    Nonsense....
     
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