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  1. Uncle Meat

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    Be patient sweetheart.

    And again, asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. Stop confusing the two issues.
     
  2. Uncle Meat

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    Australia provides protection for asylum seekers who meet the United Nations definition of a refugee, as defined in the 1951 Convention and 1967 Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees.

    http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/61asylum.htm

    The majority of refugees in Australia have been and are resettled from other countries through Australia's offshore humanitarian resettlement program.

    Each year however, several thousands of people already in Australia make applications for protection (refugee status).

    These include people who arrived lawfully and who have been staying in the Australian community, and people who have arrived unlawfully in Australia by sea or air.

    If found to be owed protection, these applicants will be granted a permanent Protection visa, provided they meet health and character requirements.


    Australia's Immigration Program has two components:

    •Migration Program for skilled and family migrants
    •Humanitarian Program for refugees and others in refugee–like situations.

    http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/60refugee.htm

    Australian Government - Department of Immigration and Citizenship
    http://www.immi.gov.au/


    Learn some facts before you start regurgetating (*)(*)(*)(*) from TV.
     
  3. diligent

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    There maybe confusion in your mind because you probably listen to the opinion of too many legal beagles who have a vested interest in this matter. And you are probably still steeped in the mindset of the 1950's when this country introduced legslation in the immediate aftermath of WW11, under very different circumstances.

    We need an orderly queue and we should iimmediately, with no hesitation, send back anyone who dares to sidestep that queue by jumping on a boat!
     
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    The system we have works fine: we don't need any changes.

    People who arrive by boat are not jumping any queue, and Australia is obliged to accept them. These are the facts: if you don't like them, run for a seat in parliament and introduce a bill. Until then, you'll have to accept the facts.
     
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    You make up facts to suit your point of view. Anyone who can't see a queue must be blind, unwilling to see that facts staring in their face,or just believes anything UN officiandos spout from their collective orifices. Or all of the above.
     
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    You can claim there is a queue all you like, you are yet to prove it, and a stupid dictionary reference means jack.

    Where do you get yours? Either provide some facts or stop trolling.

    Myth: Asylum seekers are illegal

    http://asp.hothammission.org.au/index.cgi?tid=20

    But lets not ignore the facts, hey? :rolleyes:
     
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    I just provided some FACTS for you, so read them. And show us the queue. Take a picture of it for us.
     
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    There is a 'queue' in that the immigration department has a whole pile of applications that they need to work through. Boat people tend to get a lot of media attention which is going to prioritise their applications over others. They are not necessarily more deserving and they are not necessarily more 'genuine', they just wedge the government.
     
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    Where is this "queue" again?
     
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    You are confusing immigration with asylum. Please look the words up before posting again.
     
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    If you were fleeing for your life under the threat of death, I would expect you to wait patiently for the non-existent queue to appear.

    Google "refugee queue jumping facts" and there is NOTHING to support your claim of there being a queue... and everything to support the fact that any idea of there being a queue is a MYTH. A MYTH highly promulgated by creepfeatures Howard and Ruddock. They should be flogged for their lies / disservice to humanity.
     
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    Ooooohhhhh am I now? Well no I'm not, I'm perfectly aware what the words mean, thank you very much. I do believe the department of immigration processes asylum applications. Maybe you should think before you go around being a smart arse.
     
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    No - you do not understand what you are talking about. You post makes that very clear:
    Go and look up what the difference between an immigrant and an asylum seeker is before you waste more of our time
     
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    I know what the difference is. What exactly do you think the problem is with my post? I presume there is a branch of the immigration department that is dedicated to processing asylum seekers. If you have say, 1000 asylum applications in a pile on your desk, then you get a bunch of boat people come along, in the media everyday and creating a political sh*t storm I'm sure their applications find their way to the top of the pile. Ooohhh, I see, I suppose you thought that I was saying that asylum seekers in a boat were not more deserving than people applying to immigrate. Would have thought it was pretty darn obvious I was refering to asylum seekers in a boat vs. any other asylum seeker, but OK.
     
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    I love that word 'allege'. Only a legal beagle could have 'dreamed up' such a lovely word ,a word which allows 'queue jumpers' to race ahead ofall those patiently waiting their turn.

    What a joke this country has become when we let anyone with any spurious reason to forge ahead of others!
     
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    You can't deal with facts about this one, too?
     
  19. diligent

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    If you can't see the queue, than obviously you must either be blind, or you only see what you want to see. Reminds a bit of Neville Chamberlain after his infamous 'Peace in our Time 'speech prior to WW11. He also refused to accept what was blatantly staring him in the face. Its' often referred to 'As the Refusal to Accept Reality', even when it's staring you in the face.
     
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    He was smart enough to buy Britain some time.
     
  21. diligent

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    He was deluded and,as a consequnce, left Britain unprepared for the carnage unleashed by Hitler. He was duped. if Checkoslakia, with its huge armamanebnts undustry, could have been saved from Hitlers'embrace,the war would have been considerably shortened.
     
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    So you don't know about British armament before WWII and Czechoslovakian weapon's industry, too.
     
  23. diligent

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    You don't really expect to believe your outrageous, unproven statement that all these 'illegals' are trying to enter OZ because 'they are under fear of death'. You may be able to pull the wool under this Federal Govenment's eye (not too difficult I admit), but you can't do the same to most Aussies who are sick to death of these miscreants who have no hesitation in clambering over thousands of others patiently waiting their turn in various camps around the world.

    Pull the other leg!
     
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    I politely suggest you read my last post more carefully
     
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    The one about the armamanebnts undustry in Checkoslakia?
     
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