Britain Is Bleeding

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by 6Gunner, Oct 27, 2017.

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Precogs see crimes before they happen in the future... is sufficient evidence to make an arrest before the crime happens... seems a lot of anti gun types believe it possible
     
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    You obviously know next to nothing about law and what is considered illegal, buying guns in quantity is not illegal and neither is depositing $ 5,000 cash every month, I could do that or better working steady as a commercial electrician.

    In fact some specialized commercial electrical work pays $ 1,000 every two days.
     
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    First the claim being made by yourself is that what is being proposed is an interview. Now what is being proposed by yourself is an investigation? The two are not even remotely the same. To investigate someone, law enforcement must have grounds to suspect illegal activity is being carried out. There must be probable cause that would support an arrest.

    The problem with such is that the united states does not codify into law, exactly how many firearms a person is legally able to purchase in a single year, or what number of purchases automatically crosses over into criminal territory. Since such a standard does not exist, law enforcement in the united states is barred from doing what is being suggested by yourself.

    Even if the ATF had the authority to interview Stephen Paddock, what good would such have done? Would they have the authority to arrest him? What could they even have prosecuted him for? Explain, precisely what crime was committed prior to the actual shooting?
     
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  4. Ned Lud

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    Stop guns and you stop gun murder: keep them and you promote it. This is obvious to anyone sane, surely?
     
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    silly platitudes are pretty worthless. stop criminals and stop crime would be equally worthless but more accurate. how are you going to "stop guns" given 400 million are in US society and the police and military "lose" thousands a year?
     
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    You think you kill so many more than any other rich country because you are all so naturally wicked? If you don't start doing something about your crazy obsessions soon you'll kill one another to the point that the UN will have to step in to save the sane minority.
     
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    Do you understand what happens if you make cash deposits of over 5,000? An interview even though you have committed no crime
     
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    How is depositing more than 5000 in cash illegal and yet it results in an investigation?
     
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    Stop cars and you prevent 40k auto accident deaths per year in the US. Stop alcohol and you prevent 88k deaths per year in the US. Stop ropes and you prevent 12k hanging deaths per year in the US.

    I think you're on to something.

    What exactly do you mean by "stop guns"?
     
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    Stop making them, stop selling them, stop having them as a religion and stop silly comparisons with things not designed to cause death. Meanwhile, totally ban their use and, after a period given to hand them in, make having one carry a very stiff jail sentence.
     
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    Sure, you know the legislative process to make it happen. Go for it. Good luck.
     
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    Those things not designed to cause death still cause an awful lot of deaths. We have no ability in law to stop the manufacture and sale of them, or to totally ban their use. We already have very stiff jail sentences for possession by those forbidden to possess them, but that doesn't seem to deter those criminals from possessing and using them.

    Didn't you also suggest we should ban capitalism, too, or was that someone else?
     
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    I don't live in the nuthouse. Only Americans can convince themselves that what a lot of slave-owners decreed to allow dependant peasants to shoot down any of their slaves who tried to assert their freedom was some sort of meaningful 'right' in an allegedly free society.
     
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    If you chuck 'em around like confetti, people will catch them.
     
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    That's one Bogus theory, I guess. Evidently it's much better to have your peasantry told what to do by toffs for a half dozen centuries. Your betters can tell you what you can have as rights.
     
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    Should we have the police and military break into peoples' houses to take them away? Do you want new laws to be brought about by our legislative process or simply forced upon us by actual armed force?
     
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    Under normal legal rules, yes, of course. It may well be that the NRA leads you to prefer national suicide, obviously. They are almost as powerful as AIPAC.
     
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    Your going to need guns to take away guns from the general public.
     
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    We did something about the matter, matey. Your turn.
     
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    Obviously. That's why we need armies, to deal with criminals and other national enemies.
     
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    We left Europe for a reason. We don't want to be like you.
     
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    So your'e not against guns. You're for the elite to have them so they can control the citizens. Sounds a bit communistic to me.
     
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    It's against our law to use the military against civilians in the US. Does that matter to you?
     
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