California plans to use private hotels, motels to shelter homeless people as coronavirus spreads

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  1. WillReadmore

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    Trish Reagan's Fox show - canceled after Friday
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    You're making excuses.

    Fake news such as I've identified is an assault on America.

    The idea that Fox and Rush folks are all checking directly with the CDC to confirm the crap they hear is just plain ludicrous.

    We need public statements that address these attempts to misinform America.

    And, THAT is what Don Lemon has done.
     
  2. WillReadmore

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    ???

    When they get up tomorrow, what do you WANT them to do?
     
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    What is California law on eminent domain? Do the hotel owners have to be compensated?

    Those hotels, besides being the livelihood of thousands of employees, will be trashed and most likely condemned. They aren't made to be lived in. The rooms don't have kitchens, adequate laundry facilities for all of the squatters, or room to even store cleaning supplies. The furnishings will be ripped off of the walls and sold within 3 days. The walls will have holes, the air conditioners will be sold for the copper, and the locked doors will only hide the festering stench until the filth becomes a life or death crisis. It will hide the filth from public view, but it won't help anybody. Sounds like typical California government.
     
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    I think it's very kind and humane of them to offer shelter to the homeless.
     
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    Delete
     
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    To think Fox news is any different than CNN or MSNBC is to show your political bias. All of these things are worthless they are television shows. They rely on ratings. The only people that think they need this kind of crap are baby boomers that don't know how to use the internet.

    The information that you need is available on cdc.gov. the puppet clowns are unnecessary, whether they're Don lemon (worst journalist of the year) or who ever the journalist is for Fox news. I don't know I'm not a baby boomer.
     
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    Sure, in hindsight. Obviously if we could have prevented sick people even arriving....But that horse has left the barn. It would have been "xenophobic and racist" to protect US citizens (A big part of his job)
     
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    It sounds like an excuse to cordon them off and corral them into designated places to protect everyone else from them.
     
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    Be honest.
     
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    History repeats itself. That is how they isolated the blacks. They had this new program called "The New Deal" where they offered the blacks "affordable housing" and ghettos were born.
     
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    Who said they won't put more than one person in each room?
     
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    Don't forget the bedbugs.
     
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    OK, you get them into the hotels and motels but how will you get them out, with tear gas and bullets?
     
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    that is their problem, they got them in there, they can get them out, and I think the government won't have any issues there

    maybe they could get them help and use as a opportunity to try to clean them up and train than for a job when this is over, or maybe mental health care if needed
     
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    Do you know how much money a person needs to have housing, food, transportation, and clothes in California?

    The average salary in California is $63,783. That is the median salary, which is a more accurate picture of average salaries in California than the mean salary. The mean salary is $91,149.Nov 13, 2018
     
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    in the richer areas yes, so yes the average seems higher...
     
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    It's considered by the "woke" to be bigotry to point out this was caused by the Chinese government.

    Reality is bigotry. With such people honest discussion cannot happen.
     
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    Well it's strictly because of that that we have this problem. Wuhan virus started in Wuhan China if we didn't allow anybody from China to come here or people who had been to China and other countries it wouldn't be the pandemic it is today.
     
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    How can a state commandeer a hotel?
     
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    Yup. And do you want that spark as isolated as possible, or do you want vectors all around the place? You forget that most home insecure people aren't on the streets, they're have places to stay, be a friends couch or some shelter. Now I agree with you that there are legitimate concerns that have to be factored. If a person loses their street corner they've called home for years because of this disease, that's devastating. That's cutting off from social networks, access to resources, and a sense of security. Will that street corner still be there when they go back to it? That's a serious issue. Plus when you add in factors like mental illness and the risk of physical and sexual assault, this can be harder to deal with. That's why they have to be given places to call their own. Hotel rooms are relatively good for this because they're they're own space to go to. It's locked meaning personal belongings are going to be safe, and they can be safer in their own rooms as well. It's harder when we realize that we have to treat a forgettable population into a vulnerable population that needs care. That's why this is what needs to be done on the situation.
     
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    This is absolutely false.

    The right wing news outlets have contended that this disaster is not a real prolbem and that it comes from Democrats who are plotting against the president.

    And, I pointed out specific cases. I even pointe out that Tucker Carlson at least pointed out that Trump was lying concerning severity and what is required - good for him at least on that!

    NYTimes, WaPo, and other outlets have projected information from experts as well as from Trump.
     
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    Though related, median salary is not a measure of poverty level or housing prices.
     
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    You are the same thing as a Fox news viewer you were just on the other side.

    so you insisting that everyone that agrees with you is right is just like a Fox news viewer saying everyone that agrees with him is right.

    Or a better analogy your test like a flat earther insisting the Earth is flat.

    You can tell me the globe is false until the end of time until you can prove it you have no argument.
     
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    What I'm saying isn't from me. It's from Trump, the CDC, our WA governor, and other medical experts.

    What's the source of Fox and Rushbo who project this as a nonissue and/or a Democratic partisan plot?


    If you disagree with something I've posted, then point to it and ask a question.
     
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    I already told you no televised news is legitimate.

    Why you have a bee in your bonnet only about Fox news and nobody else is down to basic partisan hackery.

    You are no different than any other person complaining about one or the other.
     

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