California plans to use private hotels, motels to shelter homeless people as coronavirus spreads

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That's just plain bull.

    There are plenty of news outlets that are projecting CDC, governors, Trump, and other medical experts.

    Fox and Rushbo have LARGE audiences and are directly promoting LIES about COVID.

    If you can identify a complaint, then POST it.
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You just are saying that because of political bias.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I've identified specific cases that are very well known.

    You've got nothing.
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Then you probably concluded that you were right before entering the discussion, making this exercise and your presence here pointless.
     
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  5. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    LOL!!

    But, at least you're admitting that what I pointed to is very real.
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure it is to you and you would refuse to accept anything contrary.

    Again there isn't really any point in you even being here if you think you are right about everything.
     
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  7. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Hey - I'm only pointing to experts, to Trump, and to well communicated events.

    And, you are making accusations against ME - while presenting nothing.
     
  8. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    If you're right about everything and all you're doing is stating facts you don't belong here this is a discussion forum.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    LOL.

    God forbid that discussions should be infused by professional direction of nationally recognized experts - even including Trump!
     
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    One question no one has been asking:
    How do you think these motel owners feel about this?
    Do you think they're fine with the state handing money to lots of poor people to stay in their motels?

    If I were the motel owner, I would be very concerned about dirtiness, hygenics, excessive wear/tear on property, and general damage. And the special cleaning costs after this is all over.

    Anyone who thinks hosting these homeless is going to be just like any other motel guest is naive.

    I have a feeling because of anti-discrimination laws in the state, these motel owners are not going to be able to say no.
     
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    Crying about television isn't infusing discussion with any such thing. That's what you were doing.
     
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    Don't raise my taxes to pay for it.
     
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    Why should these properties get the incredible bonuses of the pre-pandemic hot markets PLUS 10%?

    The public didn't cause the pandemic, this is just bad luck for the owners. These properties are already crashing, and some will be nearly empty in few weeks! These properties will have rats, drug labs, and every other rotten occurrences in abandoned motels.

    By taken over these dumps-in-process, and only paying the current value, these useful properties can be rescued before they are trashed and save enormous money and people have the option of locking the door even if some of the homeless won't keep themselves healthy.

    When the pandemic subsides, the state could sell them back to the original owners at cost, or sell them at a profit when business is booming again!

    I can see no reason why these people with dying properties to pay the owners of the high profits of the business before the crash. That's nuts!
     
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    The better question is "Why shouldn't they?"

    These hotels represent people's livelihoods. Seizing the properties is wrong, and the owners should be rightly compensated for this unforeseen, sudden alteration in their lives...

    It's fascinating to me that you know all of this, considering that the article at the link in the OP specifically states that it was not decided where the hotels would be. You're making assumptions which are based on nothing, and that's rarely the best option...

    Would you be kind enough to point out where in the article it discusses "dying properties"? I must have missed that...
     
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    Well, who coulda seen this coming?


    San Francisco reporter details 'disaster' of city's 'hotels for ...
    www.foxnews.com › media › san-francisco-hotels-for-ho...

    Thousands of homeless people have been housed in several of San Francisco's empty hotels in an effort to slow the spread of coronavirus.

    San Francisco's failed experiment of homeless hotels is a ...
    nypost.com › 2020/06/27 › san-franciscos-failed-experi...
    Jun 27, 2020 - But San Francisco is surreptitiously placing homeless people in luxury hotels by designating them as emergency front-line workers, a term that ...
     
  16. US Conservative

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    I used to think these leftist leaders were just inept but you can't be so wrong so often before you start to think maybe its more nepharious.

    These homeless crapholes drive down property values while increasing demand that the govt step in to solve the problem.

    More private property owners and businesses move out, and they are snatched up by the cities cheaply.

    This is being done all over california.
     
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    Depreciating value assets are actually(well, I shouldn't speak too generally, it depends on the property) things you stay away from with a 10 foot pole.

    No real estate investor would invest in real estate for example in Minnesota with the kids invading it. And thus driving down real estate liquidity only does long-term damage to home ownership and the neighborhoods in general.

    What the uneducated call "gentrification" is really home prices either appreciating in value due to improving conditions or deteriorating due to worse conditions and people wouldn't want to willingly live in a **** hole if they had better options.
     
  18. Libby

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    You are correct @AmericanNationalist but I don't think that's what @US Conservative is saying. I think he's saying the city will snatch these properties up because the city knows exactly why their value is depreciating because the city caused it with their actions.
     
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    Indeed and it gets worse.

    If you are a homeowner/property owner you can't evict people who don't pay rent and they also fine you if you don't rent.

    And store owners, who board up their store fronts because of the rampant crime and poverty are then targeted by the city with fines for that.
     
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