Can The Mods Undertake Action Against The Wave Of Islamist Threads?!

FALSE analogy. All Jews are not horribly evil, nor are all people who claim to be Muslims. But all people who truly are Muslims 100%, and thereby follow the Koran 100%, are engaging in many horrible evils, because that is what their guidebook the Koran prescribes/advocates/ commands. Get it ?
And as for the Muslim Brotherhood, we have the choice of assuming that they are exactly what they are. A subversive, clandestinely, violent (non-violent publicly) organization dedicated to destroy North America, and all of Western Civilization. You are invited to view the 2 videos I just posted about the Brotherhood, and better yet, read the book Muslim Mafia, and view 52 internal documents from CAIR (a Muslim Brotherhood front group) published in that book, and then we can start discussing this on a closer to equal basis.

 

So, wee need 500 threads where the only thing the Islamophobes can do is accuse others of trolling.

But such conduct is not trolling.

Clearly, we have an intent to engage in rational discussion here.

Do you see why the community is getting tired of these antics? EVERYONE who disagrees and does so with a sound arguement is, in addition to being a stealth terrorist, also a troll.

When the entirety of your arguement consists of spurious personal attacks, well, that is why its conspiracy.

 

#1 Yep, because you ignore 99.9% of the Koran, it is clearly hate speech. So is the Old Testament then is it not?

#2 How is it censorship? Is your ability to express at all been infringed? Nope, it just forces you to acknowldge that you are in a community where you single minded agenda is not the same as everyone elses.

SPAMMING THE FORUM IS NOT DEBATE.

As we can see from your responses, they are little more than practiced propoganda anyway. Koran Bad, ANYONE who disagrees Islamic apologist and probably terrorist anyway!

And we need that 500 times a day or the free speech of our cave dweeling accusers will be curtailed?

 

I am not watching your propganda which has no academic standaing. I will continue to get my information in the region through academic sources and accredited studies from institutions such RAND, inteligence assesments, and good old fashioned scholarship (you know published reports that are the syntheisis of numerous sources on the subject).

I am glad to see that the entirety of your reasoning is supported by videos - and a single book. So is the 9-11 conspiracy.

You are NOT making a case, you are NOT rebutting the points I have made, and instead look to be making a pitch ala scientology. We do not need serial accusers loose 500 times a month doing the same thing - they cannot even debate in ONE thread.

 

One can argue, and one does argue correctly that the Muslim Brotherhood is an Islamic subversive organization whose front group have continually engaged in a process of (from within) converting North America into an Islamic state. ALL of its members are the same. I've studied the Brotherhood for quite some time. I have never seen a shred of evidence to suggest that any MB members diverge from this basic creed, one iota, and you haven't shown any here.

Stealth Jihad is the method of operation of the Muslim Brotherhood, as was revealed in the 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

The key words from it are :

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).

 

Typical liberal trying to attack someone's right to free speech. You can't argue the topic, so you'd rather have all opposition silenced, like the good little tyrant you are.

 

He said to move the threads possibly to the religion section (if they meet that criteria). I don't see anything wrong with it. It's starting to get annoying going to the 'Latest World News' section and just seeing the first 2-3 pages full of "Islamists this, and Moslems that" threads... I can't actually find very much other news in the 'Latest World News' section. It especially bothers me since most of the posts are just article updates on jihadwatch.org...

I'm not saying put all of them to the 'religion' section, it's just that so many are being posted it latest news, and they usually never result into a discussion. It just ends up with a bunch of people babbling and saying "Islam is a cult", and "Islam = Imperialism" etc...

 

Obviously the mods have no interest in doing something about this wave. Mind you I don't think they should: people should be able to voice their opinion on whichever topic they find interesting.

Sadly though the mods don't even care that forum rule 10 is frequently broken in order to turn this forum into a mere copy of jihadwatch.

When people don't indicate that they're merely quoting an article so that they don't have to bother to write a comment on their own and the mods don't care about that sort of behaviour even though it has been reported, I assume the mods don't care and rule Nr. 10 is obsolete.

So if you want to counter this annoying wave of islamophobic threads I suggest you choose a website of your own liking and spam this forum with its articles in a similar way. No need to think of a comment of your own or to use quote-brackets, simple copy-pastes will do. It won't take you more than 5 minutes a day.
I would do it myself - but somehow I can't overcome my silly scruples concerning plagiarism.

 

So you're saying that 0.1% of the Koran is hate speech ? HA HA.. Man you're really digging down low now. I don't know what sanitized version of the Koran you've read, but even the CAIR-approved Ali translation is saturated with hate against "infidels", as well as all the other terrible things the Koran advocates (if not commands). You can sugar-coat it. No law against it. I don't think you're going to sucker too many people though, but know you'll keep trying because that is hard-wired into Islamapologists.

Spamming the forum is not debate. Right So stop spamming the forum with all your Koran sales pitches. Thank you.

PS - your spelling and grammar are getting almost as bad as your content.

 

We do not police threads so to say but we do look at reports. We follow the mission statement and realize there are people with many differing views and that mission is to fundamentally unite those to debate in a civil manner. Our best hope is to get opposites to agree to disagree. This is what debate is all about.

If someone thinks a thread belongs in a certain forum, report it, and we will look into it.

If someone dislikes a thread, they can always "ignore it" and move on. There will always be certain topics that can lead to emotional reactions. Religion is one of the most controversial topic's on this forum. We promote freedom of speech but will not tolerate "hate speech".

We do care.

Jiyuu-Freedom

 

HA HA. Do you really think you can put this rubbish over on anyone. A single book is it now ? LOL.. Never mind that I've been posting a suggested reading list of 8 books (it could be 28 but I don't want to overload), and you just never stop with the invalidation tactic do you ? well of course not. Everybody knows Invalidation Is Hardwired Into Islamapologists. If you don't like what someone is saying (AKA the truth), you just berate them as an invalid source. Don't worry about their repeated New York Times bestseller ratings, their many commendations, their consultations to the US Congress, etc, etc. Nah, that stuff doesn't matter to you. Heck no, you're an Islamapologist. If you don't like things you just paint it as unacceptable. If it's history, you just rewrite it. Pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwww !!!

And yes you just pretend that the numerous "points" you've made that have been refuted and TROUNCED into sawdust (and you know it) ...........enough. Why am I even talking to this troll goon ?

 

Islamapologists are always looking for ways to silence the truth about Islamization. Please be wary of that.

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...doj-find-way-criminalize-criticism-islam.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...m-public-schools-textbooks-major-players.html

 

I overcame my aversion against being a tell-tale and did report it numerous times, always giving you the link to the original article the poster just plagiarized word by word without giving credit to the source or adding a comment of his own. Both clear violations of rule nr. 10. Result: Nothing
So either I misunderstand rule nr. 10, or it's obsolete or you do not care.

Whichever: I take it that it's ok to spam this forum with plagiarized articles without bothering to think of a personal comment. Personally I would not do it, but if posters with even less scruples have a problem with this forum being spammed with Jihadwatch-articles I suggest they just 'counterspam'.

 

I surely don't know how you could accuse me of not doing anything about a plagiarized thread??? I would not tolerate it and neither does any other moderator. If there is no mention of the author, it will be deleted. So to say, I do not care is false.

 

Since when is quoting a JihadWatch article, "spam" ?

Spam - 1. "unsolicited and unwanted email"
2. "advertisements seen as being annoying or inappropriate." (Wiktionary)

JihadWatch is neither of these.

 

I don't accuse you personally of anything.
Fact is: I reported dozens of plagiarized opening posts all by the same poster. Daisytotell deleted one. Nothing ever happened to the other ones, nor were my reports answered in any way to explain why nobody acted upon them.

I've given up on it. Obviously it's either fine to plagiarize here or whoever is responsible for answering the "report" section does not care.
If you think it's not ok to plariarize, the plagiarism is so obvious you should not even need somebody to report on it. Just check this posters opening posts by copypasting the first phrases into a google search window and in nine times out of ten up comes the jihadwatch article he just copied. He doesn't even change the titles.
It's ridiculous! Sometimes the only difference between this forums "Latest World News" thread list and jihadwatch's list of articles is the lay-out.

Mind you: I don't mind discussing jihadwatch articles, but I'm rather keen on correct quoting, because I want to know what I'm discussing. And I think it's not too much to ask to add some genuine original remarks of one's own, rather than just spamming the forum with copied articles from one's favourite propaganda-site. But hey, it's not my site here. I did what I could, but if you guys can live with that kind of spamming that's your business.

 

Can you give some examples of the threads you're complaining about ? Otherwise you're delivering a low-blow cheap shot. If you're going to accuse somebody of something (the moderators or anyone else), you need to SHOW upon what you base your accusation. This is a PUBLIC forum, not just a private message between you and Jiyuu-Freedom. So the rest of us have some interest in what you're talking about too. I just haven't seen anything of what you're complaining about. Where's the beef ?

 

I’m not sure whether I’m allowed to give concrete examples in the public section of this forum because it involves naming names. But on the risk of being reprimanded or banned, here’s especially for you a small (not complete) list of OPs that are replicas of jihadwatch articles, without the poster marking his quote as a quote, mentioning the source or adding just a single word of his own:


http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...uclear-facility-has-exploded.html#post4780061 = http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/11/t...nd-iranian-nuclear-facility-has-exploded.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...al-rights-christians-muslims.html#post4587855 = http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/10/e...the-time-for-christians-to-press-demands.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...ttacks-almost-3000-last-year.html#post4789028 = http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/u...n-honor-attacks----almost-3000-last-year.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...r-allegations-political-bias.html#post4767771 = http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/11/s...ncies-over-allegations-of-political-bias.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...iages-fills-schools-retarded.html#post4747486 = http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/11/denmark-muslim-cousin-marriages-fills-schools-for-retarded.html


These are newer examples. As I said I can’t be bothered to report such posts anymore, because reporting them leads to nothing.


Also again: I’m not for censorship, just for correct quoting when quoting is due.

 

I see just as many anti-Jew, anti-Israel threads in the "Latest World News" section. Funny how I don't see you complaining about those. Oh wait, it makes sense, considering your avatar.

 

The Anti-Jew /Anti-Israel threads are bonafied here at PF.COM

 

Of the 8 threads on Israel on the first page, 3 were created by unconditional supporters of Israel:

DutchClogCyborg, Borat, Blackrook

4 were created by Moon, 2 of which were created months ago and one of which which focuses on the US.

The one listed by Bishadi simply reports the latest news on the issue concerning Israel and Iran.


Of the 11 threads on Islam,

5 were created by DutchClogCyborg



Your "anti-Jew, anti-Israel" argument is thus nothing but Holocaust abuse, since there are no facts to support it.

 

You meant to say that some go around abusing the Holocaust by insulting people who don't hate Jews.

 

Nice way to move the goal posts and set up a strawman. Where did I ever say "first page"? Structuring the argument to fit an arbitrary standard that you just invented right now... nice work.

Holocaust abuse? I thought the Holocaust never happened? That's what lots of you Muslims and anti-Israel zealots believe, anyway.

 

#1 - that is not debate.

#2 - I suggest you take a good hard look at the debate in this ONE thread, and see who is not actually debating, because mostly it is the extreme Islamophobes not debating - the entirety of which I can sum up as, "Islam Bad, disagreement apology for terrorism and morons!"

#3 - no one is saying get ride of the discussion, assuming the SPAMMERS are actually discussing anything mind you, what we are syaing is we do not need 500+ threads on the same subject.

Most forum merge these threads, or delete duplicate threads.

It is also a private forum.

So, no idea what the Islamophobes are even getting at here? Or are you just wrapping yourself up in a flag because you have no actual factual basis for disagreement? Seems so.

 

LOL...such fair and absolute free speech advocates these Yankees are...LOL