Can The Mods Undertake Action Against The Wave Of Islamist Threads?!

HA HA HA. You blew it again. 1991 yes, that was when the infamous Explanatory Memorandum of your group, the Muslim Brotherhood was written. But 2009, is the year it was declassified by the FBI and made public. It 's also the year that the Holy Land Foundation trial concluded and sent 5 of your Muslim Brotherhood dirtbags to prison for the rest of their lives where are are right now getting the (*)(*)(*)(*) beat out of them by their fellow inmates. It's also the year that CAIR and some othe MB fronts were designated as "unindicted co-conspirators" by the US Justice Dept. So this is all very current and up-to-date. So you blew it again, taqiyya boy.

And "mouth-foaming hatred" ? Oh, I don't think the Holy land Foundation trial or the sentences given were "mouth-foaming hatred". Quite the contrast, it was US justice where the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists in suits were given a fair trial, and they got what was coming to them. And if you keep on yakking in their favor in this forum, they just might be looking you up next, and checking on what skeletons you might have in your closet. LOL.

And so now the Muslim Brotherhood is a "defunct group" are they ? HA HA HA. Man you doing a fabulous job of invalidating all right. Only thing is the one you are invalidating is YOU. After all the mistakes you've made in just this one post alone, is anybody were to take your rambling ravings seriously they would have to be as dumb as a box of rocks. And "Crusadereque" ??? Well, now I'm sure you're an Islamist. If you were trying to portray yourself as a non-partisan observer, you totally blew that. ( Psssssstt. Hey folks. He didn't even spell it right - HA HA. This is too funny.)

And your last paragraph descends from ignorance/stupidity into another one of your typical > Can anybody figure out what the hell this geek is talking about ? If you do, please don't tell me. LOL.

 

This. /Close thread.

 

I doubt that this concept would work well if it was applied equally to Muslims, Jews, Christians and others. It only works among those who blame and condemn those they hate:

Could you imagine what would happen if similar was said about Jews? The anti-Semite card then suddenly be applied by those who pretend to oppose its practice but don't really, giving the usage of the anti-Semite card a bad reputation. How can one honor and love the same racism that one pretends to oppose:

The hypocricy is quite amusing, if not comical. Racism should be honored and opposed according to who is being targetted? One kind of tends to get into a bit of trouble when one honors, supports, defends and praises the very same racism one pretends to oppose. Many followers of Israel may thus now contribute their many reasons for smearing Semites with unconditional racist hatred while attacking them with the commonly misplayed anti-Semite card.

 

An Islamist organization attempting to fly the Islamic flag over the white house, implement the Koran as the Constitution along with sharia law? That's what it is in reality sport and no amount of apologetics, obfuscation or lies will change these undeniable facts.

 

Your argument might work if you can convince everyone to believe that all Jews are rich bankers.

 

Nobody forces you to read such threads. You have a choice in the matter, don't you? So if you perceive a topic as Muslim bashing, don't respond.
It's really that simple.

What you and the OP are advocating is censorship.

 

So, whenever someone expresses anti-Semitism, one should tolerate such and not respond to it, allowing Semites to be condemned and hated without anyone saying or doing anything about it?

If Jews were attacked and condemned whenever they expressed an opinion about tulips, as you are advocating, wouldn't that be a form of censorship?

 

See, your little game is as transparent as a window. Too bad I could care less about Jew bashing threads as I do Muslim ones.

So let's get back to back to my point, which is that you're advocating censorship.

So, address my point of choice versus censorship, or don't respond.

 

You didn't answer my question. If it is supposed to acceptable for white supremacists to smear Jews, Muslims and Africans with unconditional racist hatred, then how does such encourage them to express their views on Tulip growth patterns? I think that your argument would lead to a situation where only white supremacists expressed their views and I find that Jews, Muslims and Africans shoud be able to express their views without being attacked for doing so.

 

I haven't avoid anything, it's you who are avoiding a logical point that I have presented more than once.

I don't know how I can make this more simple for you to understand.

A racist expressing his/her views hurts nobody, no matter how stupid and hateful they might be. You are doing more to counter such views, by not engaging them, and ignoring them. And that would be called choice. See how that works?

Asking mods to shut down threads you deem offensive, is still censorship, no matter how you try to justify it.

 

I don't see how your opinion works in the real world. Got any studies to support it? Your argument certainly won't be backed with the Anti-Defamation League.

I didn't ask for any threads to be "shut down". I just figured that the many conspiracy theories are better fitting in the conspiracy section:

Why should it thus be "censorship" for conspiracy theories to be discussed in the conspiracy section?

 

There are not 12 threads a day on random Jewish Criminality somewhere in the word to call Jews and their supporters criminals and terrorists - no.

Its clear that like most Islamophobes you have no intent to actually debate, just castigate and blame - having studiously avoided the examples I provided and attempting to do nothing more than excuse the bigotry of extreme Islamophobia by claiming that there are a lot of threads about Israel - while conducting no comparison to see if the link holds.

Of course, someone who has been on both sides of the debate would of course be in no position to say that one side is losing its mind on the subject, the repeated pot shots taken by your peers mean nothing, and the deliberate avoidance of cases presented demonstrating the problem all clearly indicate a honest desire to discuss rather than SPAM the issue to death?

The idea that anything goes because we can compare the excessive to any other subject that engenders more than one discussion thread is simply ludircious.

Is it correct for posters to scoure the world looking for News stories about Jews in order to repeatedly denounce them as terrorists? Would it be right to scoure the news for any reports of crime involving black men and then claim that this represents the reality that ALL black men are criminals? Would it be OK to scoure the AP for stories of submissive women, women who were beaten and did not leave their attacker, and then claim that this was the correct behavior for a 'submissive' and proper woman to act? Obviously, the IRA exists, therefore all Christians are Irish Catholics whose goal is to establish the Papacy over all Christendom?

Its inappropriate.

No one is saying do not discuss Islam. What we are saying is that scouring the world for any bit of violence that may even slightly disparage Islam and then passing it off as if it is the whole of Islam is wrong. It is inaccurate at best, simple bigotry in reality, and hate speech intended to insight or excuse violence at worse. We certainly do not need 12 threads a day saying the same damb thing do we?

Just because it supports your pet project does not make it right.

Incidentaly, nipping a few prolific posters in the subject and confining them to a single thread per day ON THE SAME SUBJECT, would greatly reduce the problem - no matter the subject.

What does not help is the seek excuses to justify anything my side does at any cost! In this case, the Islamophobes have some problems of excess, but are clearly unable to even acknowledge why the community is getting upset with them - for you see they are actually victims.

Reduce the SPAM please.

 

The Muslim Bortherhood has never commited an act of Terrorism on US soil. Ever.

This may come as a shock, but much of the world does not agree with many of our military decisions in the Middle East, and that is why they have finance operations here and around the world to support resistance groups. That is what these guys are getting in trouble for - finance - supporting groups that are designated terrorist groups. That is a crime, and this guys was convicted of it.

Lots of resistance groups and ethnicties do this, and there are, to point out the obvious, Irish Americans who went to jail for supporting the terrorists in Ireland.

Now, if you are so accurate, why do our intelligence officials repeatedly refuse to put the Muslim bortherhood on the list of terrorists?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nat...no-overarching-agenda-in-pursuit-of-violence/

So tell me, how is this a terrorist group?

"The Muslim Brotherhood started off as a religious social organization, preaching Islam, teaching the illiterate, setting up hospitals and even launching commercial enterprises. As it continued to rise in influence, starting in 1936, it began to oppose British rule in Egypt.[9] Many Egyptian nationalists accuse the MB of violent killings during this period.[10] After the Arab defeat in the First Arab-Israeli war, the Egyptian government dissolved the organisation and arrested its members.[9] It supported the Egyptian Revolution of 1952, but after an attempted assassination of Egypt's president it was once again banned and repressed.[11] The MB has been suppressed in other countries as well, most notably in Syria in 1982 during the Hama massacre.[12]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

Please take a look at what is happening in Syria today, and realize that for te better pat of a century the Muslim Bortherhood has been standing opposition to that kind of centralized brutality.

You wil have as much success in banning the Muslim Brotherhood as you would the Masons. Everfy organization has its extreme elements, but those who actually make policy realize that there is a marked difference between the Muslim Bortherhood (who is poised to win the election in Egypt - which they participated in and advocated for decades) and Al Qaeda.

Not accoring to you though? Because you know better! So what if the countering arguements indicate that inclusion into the political process is the best remedy - as any terrorist group is only successful when it finds a vein of discontent to tap into.

And Muslims wanting Islam in a pre-dominately Muslim country is hardly a bad thing.

Once again, I will point you in the direction of JAM, and we defeated it on the battlefield by directing its goals into the political process where, like it or not, Iraq has a Shia majority of which a large section is ultra-conservative.

Demonizing the moderate with the biased sample fallacy is a receipe for disaster. Your thinking lead Rumsfeld and company to brand all resistance in Iraq as terrorists, greatly delaying the efforts at reconcilliation and preventing the Sons of Iraq from standing up and the return of the Suna to the political process in Iraq.

Democracy and inclusion are not something that applies to only those that agree with our positions.

Any idiot can demonize and castigate, and they do, but it takes real honor to find solutions. You will find none of that in bigoted extreme Islamophobia - whose every action hangs on the eaches rather than the aggregate.

Additionally, and just so we are tarcking, the Holy Land Foundation is what was referred to and the level of dishonesty and personal animosity from a such deliebrate and stupid game is telling of the conspiracy theorists who see only what they want to:

"It was claimed during the 2007 trial that the Justice Department fabricated quotes and modified transcripts.[11] Critics faulted much of the evidence given during the trial. The New York Times journalist Leslie Eaton said Israeli agents using pseudonyms testified for the prosecution. The government did not allege that the foundation paid directly for suicide bombings, but instead that the foundation supported terrorism by sending more than $12 million to charitable groups, known as zakat committees, which build hospitals and feed the poor. The prosecution said the committees were controlled by Hamas, and contributed to terrorism by helping Hamas spread its ideology and recruit supporters.[12] Some of these charitable committees were still receiving US funding through the USAID programme as late as 2006."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land_Foundation_for_Relief_and_Development

Oops, didn't read that one did we?

"On November 24, 2008, the government obtained guilty verdicts against the Holy Land Foundation and five individual defendants in the retrial. Holy Land was found guilty of giving more than $12 million to support the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which the US designated as a terrorist organization in 1995, and made supporting the group illegal."

So, we got six people. Therefore ALL of the Islam is flawed

Everyone else is stupid. Tell me, does it itch?

 

You're expecting rational debate from posters wholly incapable of anything but trolling.

 

You mean you don't see the massive number of threads on every tiny action in israel; like if an arab's haircut is not a straight line in the back the israeli government is an "apartheid state" ethnically cleansing arabs by the sama cabal of 4/5 jew-hating posters? WTF are you BS'ing here?

Given that you refuse to acknowledge the far larger volume of anti-israel/anti-jewish threads, you should take a spoonful of your own medicine.

All of your one-sides complaining only leads one to believe that you, like the islamic fascists, prefer to obscure the obscene, relentless violence of muslims. Here's an idea: get them to stop committing endless violence and terrorism, and then there'll be much less to report on.

 

And:

Since hamas is a part of the muslim brotherhood, seems like statement one contradicts statement number two.

 

I could give a rats ass what anti-defamation league backs or doesn't back. Why would I need studies to back something that is called common sense?

the rest of your nonsense isn't worth addressing.

 

Only if you are comparing members of the Muslim Brotherhood to all Jews which is a completely false analogy, it would be like comparing members of Jewish Defense League or Kahane to all Christians. Do try and make sense the next time you speak to me.

 

"common sense" for one single person is not necessarily common sense for anyone else. A fact-based study would help to support your argument. For now, I think that it is safe to say that your argument is not supported by anyone other than yourself.

 

I didn't compare anyone to anybody. I just figured that if one could convince the world that all Jews are rich bankers, then one can just as easily convince the world to believe the same about Muslims. Until then, we will just have to rest with the conclusion that your argument is unconvincing. Muslim Brotherhood is not one rich banker and thus one can't argue that all of its members are the same.

 

Threads with2-4 posters who are on Ignore seem a little lacking in content...

 

I didn't even have to get past your first sentence to find your usual FALSE posting. Of course the Muslim Brotherhood has committed terrorist acts on US soil. That's what the Holy Land Foundation creeps now serving life sentences were convicted of > terrorist funding to Hamas. I could add many more but I trying to minimize the troll-feeding.

So you support the Muslim Brotherhood. Well, that solidifies your standing. Yo are an enemy of America, whose goal it is to destroy all of North America and all of Western Civilization and turn it all into an Islamic state. You are probably a member of the Muslim Brotherhood or one of its front groups.
And you say "we" got six people in the HLF trial ? No, "we" didn't do that, because you are not one of us. You are a Muslim member of the Ummah, who has not nation, who is with the Brotherhood, and you probably should have been one of the defendants who got convicted.

And as for what is a bad thing, this is a bad thing > Islam anywhere.

And what is another bad thing > YOUR Muslim Brotherhood

These 2 videos are irrelevant to Neutral, because of his clear NON-Neutrality, and irrelevant to all other members or supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood, but to all the sane people out there, especially those who care about America (and Canada), nothing could be more relevant and important to watch. They are fairly short, and highly informative of indispensible factual information. I would also urge one and all to get a copy of the Book "Muslim Mafia", as discussed in the second video, so as to not be vulnerable to con job talk as from Neutral, OJLeb, and other Islamists.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nGdNtU9VHw"]FIGHT - The Muslim Brotherhood - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEb-USpe6jM"]Muslim Brotherhood 'Conspiracy' to Subvert America - YouTube[/ame]

 

FALSE analogy. All Jews may not be rich bankers, but ALL members of the Muslim Brotherhood are exactly what The Doctor said they are. If you don't know that, you don't have a basic understanding of the group, and its Koranic foundation/framework.

 

That doesn't change my argument the slightest bit. If you can somehow convince the world that all the Jews are horribly evil, then you'll then probably be able to convince them of your views concerning Islam. Until then, good luck. Until then, we have no other choice than to assume that Muslim Brotherhood does not consist of one single rich banker.

 

Want to talk about hate speech ? Islam (the Koran) is the # 1 "hate speech" in the world, and has been continually for 1400 years.

Incidentally, nipping a few prolific posters in the subject and confining them to a single thread per day ON THE SAME SUBJECT constitutes CENSORSHIP. OK in Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Iran. NOT OK in the USA.

How absurb can this character get ? It isn't bad enough that he continues to lie to us with the use of the word "Islamaphobes" (which he knows there is no such thing), but on top of that he says > "are clearly unable to even acknowledge why the community is getting upset with them" HA HA HA. How many things are wrong in that one sentence ? 2, 3, 4 ?

First, there is no such thing as Islamaphobia.
Second, the community is not at all upset with what protectionists say about Islamization. By and large, the community, not getting Islamization news much from the MSM who blacks it out routinely, and they are unaware of probably more then 90% of all the Islamization going on. When they do know about it, they are strongly opposed to it, and are very accepting of the protectionists opposition. Case example ? The Ground Zero Mosque. Even many left wing liberals expressed opposition to it, as did over 70% of New Yorkers, a highly liberal city, with a liberal mayor and 2 liberal US Senators.
Likewise, when Americans hear about college tuition raised for footwashing basins, blind people et al with dogs, and people with alcoholic beverages being refused taxi rides, and people being fired from jobs for an assortment of things Muslims don't like (which Americans do), and Muslim crowds blocking traffic while praying and disobeying No Parking signs, and causing disturbances on airplanes, and bans on piggy banks, Winnie the Pooh and all pig-related things, attacks on cartoonists and free speech (like this thread), attacks against filmmakers and censorship in film (like Sum of All Fears) where the film company was bullied by pushy Muslims to change the content of its movie, where radio talk show hosts are fired from jobs and told what they may or may not say, when college professors are reprimanded for stating what is deemed politically incorrect according to the standards of Islamapologists, when US soldiers are gunned down and killed (as in Fort Hood) because an Islamist known to be dangerous wasn't removed in deference to Muslim sensitivities, and Muslims refusing to follow standard rules, as in an amusement park in Rye, NY, and causing a massive riot, with the park shut down for the day, etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

I guess we can easily deduce that it is the Islamapologists (like not so Neutral) who are clearly clueless why the overwhelming majority of the community is not just "getting" upset with THEM, but has been for quite some time, and is getting more upset with THEM every day.