Can we agree that the Arizona Audit is a joke?

Vote stealing is vote stealing.
Gun deaths would be guns dying, which of course is metaphorical as guns are inanimate objects.

IT’S PERFECTLY NORMAL TO DELETE DATABASES BEFORE AN AUDIT, JUST ASK HILLARY: Dominion, Maricopa County Rebuff Arizona Senate’s Attempt to Get Election Machine Passwords: Auditors found an entire database from a machine deleted, raising concerns.

And they’re certainly aren't acting like honest people with nothing to hide.

 

It happened in give counties with a long history of Corrupt Democratic machines and involved less ths200 k votes. It was only the presidential election that mattered. To those corrupt Dems.

 

Wrong. You stated,"No level of voter fraud is acceptable."

So apparently you have no problems with people shooting each other but voter fraud is a no no.

 

Yes. There is no level of acceptable voter fraud, though there sure do seem to be a lot of folks on the Left that are all for voter fraud.

If necessary for self defense, of course. And I certainly am not a gun exclusivist when it comes to self defense. I'm more in the "whatever works" camp.

Correct. Every fraudulent vote is a stolen vote. There is no acceptable level of vote theft.

Democracy works when the ballot reflects the judgment of the people. When folks steal votes, then the outcome more reflects the judgement of the vote thieves and that's how you can end up with an idiot as President.​

 

You do realize 100% secure cannot be achieved.

 

Why would we want less than the most trustworthy elections possible?

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In which case either emulate NZ or Aus

 

Again 100% secure cannot be achieved.

 

Are you saying we don't want the most trustworthy elections possible?

 

So you can't read. Got it.

 

No just that someone somewhere will try to scam the system - as long as you keep that to a minimum then having 10 erroneous votes out of one million should be acceptable

 

I went from not a supporter of this audit, but accepting it and hoping it would lay this whole conspiracy theory to rest. Then the facts cames out about what a clown operation had been selected and the partisan clown way they were going to run the show and the partisan clown way proponents of stop the steal are mixing up facts to try to back up their claims (They STILL don't get that Maricopa county is run by republicans). So I am now in the camp of very opposed to THIS particular audit. I don't understand why that is a concept you are having a tough time with or disputing. I thought I laid out my thinking pretty thoroughly in my OP.
I've got to beleive that if you are a big beleiver in stop the steal you probably went from "we've got them now!", and then when the clown operation facts came out, you went to "jeez I sure wish they were running a better operation" even if you still beleive that this audit is the one that uncovers a massive coordinated effort to tamper with the election.
And your post though supposedly mocking is pretty much the definition of the socrcatic method. So yeah, an original thesis is confronted with facts that make the person rethink his thesis. I described what those facts were in my OP. If you disagree with those facts or would like to refute them, then we really are going to do Socrates proud.
Looking forward to why you think the Maricopa audit is not flawed.

 

Yup. The audit sure is going well.
Remember Cyber Ninja claimed that they would be done counting by the 14th.
The ballots have been packed up and trucked off to be returned ten days later. yeah that's really reassuring to the public.
Here's a pretty good and neutral recap of where things are at
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...esidential-election-take-week-off/4979967001/

 

This must be quite disappointing for you given that you were all for this audit, at first, though you never posted that, then suddenly in a stroke of effulgent insight, you realized that this audit sucked and you weren't for it all. What an amazing journey!

 

So I see. Still absolutely nothing to contribute to the conversation. Sad to think of how much work you have gone through reading through all my posts so that you could have a zinger to sling my way. Then coming up completely empty you just decided to troll. Lots of work and bitterness for absolutely nothing.
You could have spent that time coming up with a good defense of the recount effort, or decided to agree that the recount was flawed and doing a disservice to your side of the aisle, or a mix of the two (this is really usefeul and will reveal fraud, just wish they had done it better). Really, anything to actively participate in the conversation. But you just decided to go with trolling. Pretty sad.
Still I guess there is hope. DO you think this audit is being well run? Defend it. Do you think it is being poorly run? If so do you think that that will overshadow anything they find out or do you think that the facts if they are damning enough will speak for themselves? Was it really weird to look for watermarks (if they existed don't you think the people who put them there would be revealing themselves?)? What a bout the bamaboo thing?
Anyway. Tons of legit questions to ask. ou are welcome to participate. or you can continue on with your petty trolling. Just beleive me, it's not a good look.

 

There is something fishy going on.

This audit should not take that long. Trump supporters were complaining about counties not finishing counting ballots by midnight on election day. Now those same people are perfectly fine with this audit taking a month.

 

Sure but allowing a company that doesn't know which colored pens they are allowed to use doesn't inspire much confidence, but of course we all know this isn't about election security is it.

 

It's precisely about election security, which the State Legislature is constitutionally charged with ensuring. It's nice to see the various State Legislatures cleaning up their procedures in order to ensure free and fair elections. There is no acceptable level of fraud in our system.

ELECTIONS SO CLEAN THEY NEED A PROPAGANDA CORPS TO DEFEND THEM: Arizona GOP Chairwoman Kelli War Explains the Current Political Propaganda War Taking Place in Maricopa County.

Desperate Maricopa County officials have initiated a last ditch propaganda war in a failing attempt to deflect attention from their election misconduct. The Maricopa Board of Supervisors have met in closed-door sessions with lawyers and are now attacking the Arizona Senate, the audit itself and the people of Arizona.

 

What proof do,you have they were deleted?

 

If this was about election security, why did the senate republicans hire a company that has no history in audits and did not know which color pens they were allowed to use?

 

I found your claim unbelievable so I searched for evidence to support it and there isn't any.

If the State Legislature wants to double check the work they delegated to the County, they will. This County already made their case in Court, and lost. The case you are asking me to make has already been made in a Court of Law and carried the day.

Well, you're welcome.

SMFH

It's not clear to me why you think I need your permission.

We'll await the outcome of the audit. Trust, but verify.

 

This County already litigated their objections and lost. Now it's time for the County to stop obstructing the audit. They act like they have something to hide, but, we'll wait for the results of the audit before coming to conclusions.

 

No, we can never "agree"....enough said?

Random musings....I'm going fishingn tomorrow and eating at the Golden Corral in Punta Gorda....

I aint used my microwave in months, smells like burnt metal, perfect excuse to drive 25 miles to get my grub on!!!

 

Your source is Conservativetreehouse?
? Do they call it that because that is where all the nuts hang out?
Car calls them “unreliable” https://www.cjr.org/fake-beta

Fact Check rates them as unreliable

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/websites-post-fake-satirical-stories/
Mediabias fact-check lists it under “The last refuge” as welll

 

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